PART 9 IDENTIFYING THE GOSSIP MINISTRIES: GETTING EVEN VS EXPOSING EVIL WORKS

 BIG MINISTRY BIBLE INJUSTICES
EXPOSING SIN WITH MATURE INTEGRITY

POINT: See relationship respect ISAIAH 1:18 “Come let us reason together, though your sins be as scarlet He will wash them white as snow)..Meaning this  in light of it coming in the Scriptures after (means: still applying) following the  fall, Sodom and Gomorrah, any other form of human sin back then…even now today!

PART 9 “MINISTRY AI AND I”
IDENTIFYING THE GOSSIP MINISTRIES

“GETTING EVEN” VS EXPOSING EVIL WORKS

Exposing Sin with Mature Integrity

FAMOUS HISTORICAL BIBLE PERSONS WHO SUFFERED DUE TO OTHER FELLOW BELIEVER

“If these persons can refuse to ATTACK after what went on, which is worse than now, then we can refer from ‘our need for payback.”

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First : This Series evaluates:

Taveau says: In light of injustice, deep bias, betrayal, evil to ourself or to a personal family member, murder, loss, treachery, objectifying, being played, manipulated controlled or having a hidden sin suddenly come to light

Also Taveau says, “this is for Selah,(to pause and consider) as each individual situation may be viewed differently based on what happens and the person involved. I am just giving this as “perspective” in light the “Accusation for monetized video” Identifying the Gossip Ministry series.

Note: in view of the many recent TV preacher ongoing scandals, this word doe not instruct or encourage a single person to “not up front confront”  (Genesis 3 Adam in the Garden, Galatians 6:1; Matthew 18:15-16) and or to take it to the elders, leaders and/or when deemed needful, take it to the authorities (police, head of ministry, top leader of  movement.

However this is ministry perspective is based on A.R.T. Taveau’s Abiding Relationship Theology (winsome respect, but taking action, holding directly accountable)

And A.R.T. is FULLY ABOUT “THE METHODS, THE TONE, HOW WE DO IT, Also WHO DOES IT“** (proper Bible authority and respecting protocol, self government, that safe guards all of the parties and spares the Christian community at large from being regarded as dysfunctional or  invalid, suspicious (Ephesians 4 transformed community, rather than 2 Timothy 3:1-8, I Timothy 6:5 ‘from such turn away”)

Dr Taveau asks Chat GPT AI: 

How does Paul, in Philippians 2:3-8 (KJV), either contradict, conflict with, or validate the response to scenarios where great sin has been committed, but without targeting revenge, vilification, or mean-spirited attacks? Specifically, explain the balance between justice, a godly perspective, and holding each party accountable. Consider also how to evaluate attack videos or actions taken to “expose works of darkness” without any relational context. Use the following examples to support your explanation:

  1. God’s response to Adam’s sin (Genesis 3).
  2. Young David, nearly murdered and pursued by King Saul (1 Samuel).
  3. Jesus’ response to Judas’ betrayal (Gospels).
  4. Saul (before his conversion to Paul) as a persecuting accuser with a vendetta against the First Church (Acts).
ChatGPT said:

Apostle Paul instructs Philippians 2:3-8 (KJV)

“Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”

Godly Justice vs. Revenge & Vilification

Paul’s teaching in Philippians 2:3-8 gives clear contrasts between godly humility, justice, and Christlike accountability versus self-serving behaviors like vilification, targeting others, and revenge. Let’s analyze these scenarios in light of Philippians 2:

1. God’s Response to Adam’s Sin (Genesis 3)

Situation: Adam sinned, but God’s response was corrective and compassionate, not humiliating or vengeful.

  • Philippians 2 Validation: God held Adam and Eve accountable but did not vilify or target them unnecessarily. God’s focus was on justice and redemption:
    • He pronounced the consequences of sin (Genesis 3:16-19).
    • He covered their shame by providing clothing (Genesis 3:21).
  • Connection to Christ: Like Jesus (Philippians 2:8), God remained the sovereign, merciful Father, offering redemption while addressing sin.

Takeaway: Accountability without revenge or humiliation aligns with Philippians 2: humility, justice, and redemption.

2. David vs. Saul (1 Samuel 18-26)

Situation: Elder King Saul (an LP) pursued David with a murderous vendetta out of jealousy and fear. Despite Saul’s great sin:

  • David never retaliated or vilified Saul. He honored Saul’s position as God’s anointed, even when Saul sought David’s life (1 Samuel 24:6, 26:9).
  • David trusted God for justice and refused to take matters into his own hands.

Philippians 2 Validation:

  • David exemplified humility and a servant’s mindset, choosing to honor rather than attack.
  • He esteemed Saul (Philippians 2:3), not because of Saul’s behavior, but because of Saul’s God-given position.
  • David’s approach reflects Christ’s humility—leaving justice to God.

Takeaway: Seeking revenge, vilification, or public humiliation contradicts Philippians 2. David shows us that godly justice often involves restraint, trust in God, and refusal to act out of “strife or vainglory.”

3. Jesus After Judas’ Betrayal

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2022&version=NKJV

Situation: Judas committed a great sin by betraying Jesus.

  • Jesus did not vilify Judas publicly or retaliate. He responded with sorrow and allowed God’s redemptive plan to unfold (Matthew 26:50).
  • On the cross, Jesus said, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).

Philippians 2 Validation:

  • Jesus humbled Himself to death on the cross (Philippians 2:8) rather than seeking justice through revenge.
  • His focus was on redemption rather than condemnation.

Takeaway: Jesus shows us how to respond to betrayal without vilifying the sinner—humility, forgiveness, and submission to God’s will.

4. Saul the (the LP, Before Conversion) Persecuting the First Church

Situation: Saul (before becoming Paul) attacked the early Church with zeal, accusations, and persecution (Acts 9:1-2).

  • Saul believed he was exposing darkness (much like modern accusers) but acted out of misplaced religious fervor.
  • After his encounter with Jesus, Saul was humbled and corrected (Acts 9:4-6).

Philippians 2 Conflict:

  • Saul’s pre-conversion actions contradicted Philippians 2. His zeal was rooted in pride, not humility; strife, not restoration.
  • Post-conversion Paul reflects the principles of Philippians 2—humility, service, and honoring others, even when addressing sin (Galatians 6:1).

Takeaway: Correcting others without relationship, humility, or understanding often leads to self-righteous attacks, resembling Saul’s early persecution. True exposure of darkness must align with Christ’s mindset of humility.

Modern Application

Today, when great sin is committed, the Philippians 2 mindset provides clear guidance:

  1. Justice with Humility: Hold individuals accountable biblically (Matthew 18:15-17), seeking restoration, not public humiliation.
  2. Avoid Vainglory: Public exposure via attack videos, podcasts, or monetized platforms often contradicts Philippians 2, as they can serve ego and gain rather than Christ’s purpose.
  3. Relationship Matters: Jesus, David, and Paul all show that correcting sin should come from a place of relationship, humility, and love, not strife or disconnected accusations.
  4. Leave Justice to God: Like David with Saul, trust God to address unrepentant sin. Revenge or vilification often reveals pride and self-righteousness.

 APOSTLE PAUL MINISTRY Repeat Philippians 2:3-4  KJV

3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
A Respectfully Submitted Selah:
Taveau Depicts the Historical Bible following
(Note: It’s not AI, but some points I’ve made for many years)

POINT: Genesis 3 The First Human Being Adam 
 

In light the of the TMZ Style Christian Ministry, Gossip Methods.. let us recall each of the following HUGE examples, and this is Open Ended for each reader to evaluate:

We ponder God’s actions, judgements in the light of each of this big scenarios”
1 Genesis 3 “The Easily Swayed Adam” Adam willfully disobeys God, which then causes the Human Fall .

We note in Genesis 2, how Adam was the first born and had a private First Born relationship with God the Father the Creator. God told ‘Adam ‘first’ ..do not eat of the knowledge of the tree of good and evil’.” But he did in Genesis and chose to please his wife, Eve, rather than the God who made him.

Point: Creator God knew more than Adam. He (God) realized what we know now(space travel, wifi, cells, etc) and much more, therefore when Adam willfully took that fruit out of Eve’s hand and ate it,  then he caused the entire Plan of God to FALL.

The Good Creator Father (authority) Major  Point : Read Genesis 3 We note specifically “why” but “HOW”   confronted Adam,(his respect, calm, yet firm and read to minister)…How God acts when He confronts His child,  resembles a great natural Father, Grandparent, Stepparent Ministry Authority) We witness holding directly responsible firm, (Isaiah 1:18 relationship respect)  “tough love” with no berating, lecturing, defiling word cursing, with zero demeaning, rage.

And this  is how every Good Christian Father should also behave.(However it will demand that we each have Christ in our hearts to give us his (Galatians 5:22-23 ) fruit of the spirit “self government” “Self control.”

“TAKE AWAY:  USE RESPECTING, EFFECTIVE METHODOLOGY,

ABIDING RELATIONSHIP, CALM, FIRM POLITE TONE “Sister T

I Samuel 18: GENERATIONS: THE YOUNG DAVID AND THE OPPRESSED, TOXIC,UNSAFE ELDER KING SAUL

Read I Samuel 18 where King Saul tries to kill King David with his javelin.**
Accuser Jealousy
(read below, how young David was adored)
Song of Solomon “jealousy is as cruel as the grave”

Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.

And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.

And David went out whithersoever Saul sent him, and behaved himself wisely: and Saul set him over the men of war, and he was accepted in the sight of all the people, and also in the sight of Saul’s servants.

And it came to pass as they came, when David was returned from the slaughter of the Philistine, that the women came out of all cities of Israel, singing and dancing, to meet king Saul, with tabrets, with joy, and with instruments of musick.

And the women answered one another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.

And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him; and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands: and what can he have more but the kingdom?

And Saul eyed David from that day and forward.

10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul’s hand.

11 And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite David even to the wall with it. And David avoided out of his presence twice.

12 And Saul was afraid of David, because the Lord was with him, and was departed from Saul.

HOW(later on) David Acted and Respected Despite the Wiley Kings demonic threat: 
I Samuel 24  He did not attempt to pay him back, or ambush the King to retaliate, nor undermine, cause mutiny among his tribe.
JESUS AND JUDAS
How did Jesus, the First Disciples act when Judas betrayed Christ for 30 pieces of silver?
OLD MINISTRY LEADER MOVEMENT AND THE NEW ONE:  SAUL FIRST, THEN APOSTLE PAUL
 
Before Apostle Paul was saved, he was an LP named Saul who murdered many in the early Christian Church. 
How did Jesus repay? the Disciples?
FOOD  FOR THOUGHTRemember: In the last days “nation will rise against nations” means “ethnos (people groups, ethnic groups, etc) will rise against ethnos” (ethnic people groups) But I phrase it like this “RELATIONSHIP WILL RISE UP AGAINST RELATIONSHIP”
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