PART 9 TROUBLING THE CHRISTIAN (WITCH WATCHING) PATRIARCHY ( T’S OFFICE NIGHTMARE)

MINISTRY AI AND I
PART 9
TROUBLING THE CHRISTIAN PATRIARCHY
(L MATRIARCHY)
WITCH WATCHING**
**’T’s NIGHTMARE OF PENTECOSTAL, MOSTLY LP CHARISMATIC DISCOVERY….Which I refer to as “word curse theology” also ‘evil eye” ‘divining
” in “Christian” “safe” fellowship, church, and ministry, area, national,
most of these call themselves apostles, prophets
Note: “Once you’ve been mauled by lions, it makes it easy to detect their scent’
Apostle T. D’Arcy: Men and women “the WELP Studies 1990’s on)
“To know the love of Christ which passes knowledge and be filled with the fullness of God”
Paul Ephesians 3:19

” If we walk in the light as He is in the light,then we have fellowship one with another and the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin” I John 1:7

“But he/she that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.”
 Apostle Paul I Corinthians


“Beware of the strange children” Psalm 144: 7-11

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NOTE: The first part resembles the second in this Part 9.

TD LEARNING CURVE VISITOR, ATTENDER, LEADER AWARE PHRASE:

BEWARE THE SCOWLS OF FALSE DOCTRINE

(MEANS “FROWNS… NO SMILES, GLADNESS,  NO JESUS JOY” (that too often can signify sin spying Levitical Patriarchism, L Matriarchism, (mostly LP Shepherding) top control which I trigger when, if it is in any area ministry. Keep away for it is a sign of  ministry Phariseeism, dark hiding occult, sin conscious religious rules, or ministry targeting big bias (may not manifest at first, but it will eventually, even if later)

Reason? It has been such a disturbing and repeated finding in Book of Acts ministry groups, who “move in the gifts” “move in long worship” and in teachings of office ministry “apostles and prophets Surely there are many more, but this is the repeated and often aggressive, betraying majorly “tale bearing and often lazy occult accusing without any “office or seer spy elite lay interacting, speaking” Also, somberly scowling…appearing stern…to presume the “worst” about new atypical ministry visitors, (while remaining hidden, safely ” from afar!!) (targeting).

FIRST PART

Minister Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

Please briefly outline the roots of religious, sin conscious accusation

1. Historical Roots of Religious Accusations

The Salem Witch Trials (1692-1693, Puritan New England)

  • The Puritans, influenced by European witch-hunting traditions, conducted trials in Salem, Massachusetts, where people (mostly women) were accused of witchcraft based on spectral evidence (visions and impressions claimed by seers).
  • People accused others without evidence, using “inner readings” and dreams, much like how some modern church groups “discern” witches or Jezebels without conversation.
  • The Bible was misused to justify false accusations, leading to mass hysteria and the execution of 20 people.(mostly women)
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Exodus 23:1 warns against spreading false reports, and Jesus in Matthew 7:1-5 condemns unjust judgment.

The Malleus Maleficarum (“Hammer of Witches,” 1487) – German Monk Heinrich Kramer

  • A Catholic inquisitor, Heinrich Kramer, wrote this book as a manual for detecting and punishing witches.
  • It promoted the idea that witches (especially women) were inherently deceptive, working with Satan, and should be exterminated.
  • Accusations were often based on suspicion, social bias, or misfortunes like illness or crop failure.
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Romans 12:19 states vengeance belongs to God, not human witch-hunters.

The Catholic Inquisitions (12th-19th Century)

  • The Catholic Church, through various inquisitions, targeted “heretics” based on vague or politically motivated accusations.
  • Many were executed based on unverified claims, much like some modern churches excommunicate or “mark” people based on private “seer readings.”
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their unjust judgments (Matthew 23:23-24).

The Shepherding Movement (1970s-1980s, USA)

  • A charismatic (TD adds: all LP white males) Christian movement that placed believers under the “covering” of church leaders who dictated their lives.
  • Independent believers were labeled rebellious, much like modern accusations of being “unsubmitted.”
  • Leaders used “spiritual authority” to control people’s jobs, marriages, and friendships.
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Jesus said the greatest leaders serve (Mark 10:42-45), not dominate.

2. Modern Church Accusations and Their Parallels

Many modern church movements continue these historical patterns under new terminology. People are often labeled as Jezebels, witches, unsubmitted, or church hoppers without any biblical due process.

Common Accusation Methods Today:

  • “Seer” Readings & Spiritual Scanning: Some claim to discern spirits by mere intuition, labeling individuals without interaction or factual basis.
  • Marking & Witch Lists: Some ministries keep lists of supposed “rebellious” people, much like past heresy trials.
  • Public Shaming & Social Control: Instead of direct, biblical correction, some church leaders spread rumors to isolate individuals.
  • Accusations of Unsubmission: Independent ministers or believers not under a particular authority are often labeled “out of order.”

How This Compares to the First Church:

  • Jesus rejected false judgment: Matthew 7:1-5 warns against judging others without self-examination.
  • Paul instructed fair due process: 1 Timothy 5:19 requires two or three witnesses before bringing an accusation.
  • Biblical correction is relational, not dictatorial: Galatians 6:1 instructs that correction should be gentle and with restoration in mind. (and in private, face to face) Same with Matthew 18:15
  • True discernment is based on the Spirit, not suspicion: 1 Corinthians 2:15 emphasizes spiritual discernment, not paranoia.

3. Is This Occultic or False Religion?

Some modern practices resemble divination more than biblical prophecy. The Bible condemns false visions and divination (Jeremiah 14:14, Deuteronomy 18:10-12). When church leaders claim to “read” people’s spirits without direct engagement, they risk stepping into a form of psychic practice rather than biblical discernment.

Key Differences Between Biblical Prophecy and Occult Practices:

Biblical Prophecy Occult/False Religion
Encourages repentance & restoration (2 Corinthians 7:10) Controls people through fear & suspicion
Based on relational engagement & wisdom Based on quick judgments & paranoia
Subject to biblical testing & accountability (1 Thessalonians 5:21) Exempt from questioning, claims ultimate authority (TD adds: top elders refuse 1. In private 2.  up front Galatians 6:1 3. humbly , one to one, confront)

Conclusion: The Need for True Biblical Discernment

Many modern church practices of accusation mirror historical witch-hunts, legalistic inquisitions, and the authoritarian Shepherding Movement.

A Biblical Response:

  1. Reject False Accusations – Proverbs 6:16-19 lists false witness as an abomination.
  2. Encourage Fair Judgment – 1 Timothy 5:19 requires multiple witnesses before accusations.
  3. Emphasize Relationship Over Control – Jesus personally engaged people before speaking into their lives.
  4. Discern Spirits Rightly – 1 John 4:1 warns to test spirits rather than assume.

Final Thought:

The First Church, Jesus, and Paul would have rebuked these practices as false religion, unbiblical judgment, and spiritual abuse. Believers must return to biblical discernment, rejecting the paranoia and authoritarianism found in some modern church circles.

Beneath: From Biblehub.com I Corinthians 14: 2-4 Apostle Paul

PART 2

Based on personal life experience, much Luke Ministry eyewitness early 1990’s onward, multi USA states
Miss T said:
How would the First Church, the Bible, Jesus Christ, Paul, regard the Modern Church, calling out people in public, rebuking them openly without any first prior conversation? Also, name-calling people as unsubmitted, as a Jezebel, without even interacting, meetings,  and speaking with  the many persons?

And what about the people who call people church hoppers and make TV, you know, video and call out women and men and gossip and revile them, but they don’t even know them, they’re not a part of their movement?
Please address those in a calm, teaching fashion.
Chat GPT Replied:

A Biblical and First Church Perspective on Public Rebuke, Name-Calling, and Gossip in the Modern Church

1. Biblical Protocol for Confrontation: Matthew 18:15-17

Jesus provided a clear process for addressing sin or issues between believers:

  • First, go to the person privately (Matthew 18:15).
  • If they do not listen, bring one or two others as witnesses (Matthew 18:16).
  • Only if they refuse correction should the matter be brought before the larger body (Matthew 18:17).

This process prioritizes relationship, dialogue, and reconciliation. Publicly calling out someone without first speaking to them privately directly contradicts Christ’s instructions.

2. Paul’s Approach: Correction with Love, Not Public Shaming

The Apostle Paul corrected false teachings and sin in the church, but he did so with the heart of a father, not as a public accuser. Even when he named individuals (e.g., Hymenaeus and Alexander in 1 Timothy 1:20), it was done to protect the church, not to engage in gossip or reviling.

Paul warned against “biting and devouring one another” (Galatians 5:15) and called for correction to be handled in a spirit of gentleness (Galatians 6:1). He instructed Timothy to correct “with great patience and careful instruction” (2 Timothy 4:2), not through public spectacle or character assassination.

3. The Sin of Name-Calling and False Accusations

The modern trend of labeling individuals as “Jezebels,” “church hoppers,” “unsubmitted,” or “false teachers” without direct engagement mirrors the Pharisees, whom Jesus rebuked for judging by appearances and lacking mercy (John 7:24, Matthew 23:23-24).

  • Jesus never publicly shamed individuals without first offering them private dialogue.
  • Accusing without relationship is slander, which the Bible condemns. Proverbs 10:18 says, “Whoever spreads slander is a fool.”
  • Revelation 12:10 calls Satan “the accuser of the brethren,” meaning public shaming and false accusations resemble the devil’s work, not Christ’s.

4. Gossip and Reviling: A Sign of Spiritual Immaturity

Many modern critics, including some cessationists, use YouTube, TV, and social media to attack individuals and movements, especially charismatic or prosperity teachers. However, the Bible warns against such behavior:

  • 1 Timothy 5:13 warns against being “busybodies” who talk about things they should not.
  • 1 Corinthians 5:11 says to avoid those who practice “reviling,” equating it with idolatry and greed.
  • Romans 14:4 reminds us, “Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master, he stands or falls.”

5. True Biblical Discernment vs. Public Attacks

While testing teachings is biblical (1 John 4:1, Acts 17:11), doing so without personal relationship or first-hand knowledge turns into malicious gossip, reviling, and self-righteousness. The Bereans tested doctrine but did not attack individuals (Acts 17:11).

6. First Church Example: No Divisive, Sectarian Warfare

The early church in Acts did not waste time publicly bashing others but focused on preaching the gospel, loving one another, and demonstrating the power of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:42-47). Paul rebuked division (1 Corinthians 1:10-13) and warned against teachers who stir up controversy rather than godly edification (1 Timothy 6:3-5).

Conclusion: Returning to the Biblical Standard

  1. Public rebuke without private conversation is unbiblical.
  2. Name-calling and labeling without personal dialogue is slanderous and Pharisaical.
  3. Gossip, reviling, and divisive accusations are condemned in Scripture.
  4. Correction should be done in a spirit of humility and love, not through online attacks.

Jesus calls His followers to be peacemakers (Matthew 5:9), slow to speak (James 1:19), and marked by love (John 13:35). The modern church must return to biblical correction methods rather than embracing public humiliation and sectarian warfare.

Sister Taveau said:
Modern day churches, I’ve had this happen literally, and it’s  not at all fair (or safe,fellowship healthy) You visit, maybe you go two times or three, they never speak to you, or never address you, but they will start to presume themselves to be over you. That’s usually Levitical Patriarchism and Matriarchism in the Charismatic Movement, and it’s mostly Caucasian to my knowledge, it could be anywhere.
These pastors may be in a group, a gathering, a network around the nation, around the area, but they will peg myself or somebody else, usually white people or somebody dark-skinned, as their property, that they’re under them when we’ve never talked, I’ve not joined, I’ve only visited, I’ve been in a ministry of my own. So we’re not against these “people”(for they are human, like us), but it is a form that is very attack-oriented, no relationship, it’s like racism, I would think they do it to racism because they’re very white, colonial, Levitical Patriarchy, Matriarchy, which we’ve talked about.
And all of this is repeatedly, USA wide.. without “relating”  , getting to know, “confronting as in Galatians 6:1, Matthew 1815-16) and calling people, and then reading you with divining, to scan you to see if you’re the enemy or a friend, it’s like paranoid, calling people Jezebels, many of them, around the United States, I’ve been to Florida, all around the nation, Dallas, it’s the same group all the time. Who, what would the Bible say compare and contrast this type of behavior?
Apostolic Sister T said:
But first, please define the following:
Bible witch craft, false religions, divining, occult, authority which false, anything resembling, evil eye

Chat AI responds:

In biblical terms, practices such as witchcraft, false religions, divination, and the occult are explicitly condemned. These activities are considered abominations and are strictly prohibited in the scriptures.

Witchcraft and Sorcery: The Bible condemns witchcraft and sorcery, viewing them as attempts to harness supernatural powers apart from God. For instance, Deuteronomy 18:10-11 lists practices like divination, sorcery, and consulting the dead as detestable to the Lord.

False Religions: Engaging in false religions, which involve worshiping deities other than the God of Israel, is also condemned. The Bible emphasizes the importance of exclusive devotion to God and warns against idolatry and the worship of false gods.

Divination: Divination, the practice of seeking knowledge of the future or the unknown through supernatural means, is prohibited. Leviticus 19:26 states, “You shall not practice divination or soothsaying.”

Occult Practices: The occult encompasses various practices such as astrology, necromancy, and magic, all of which are forbidden in the Bible. Ephesians 6:12 notes that our struggle is “against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places,” highlighting the spiritual dangers associated with occult practices.

Evil Eye: The concept of the “evil eye,” believed to cause harm through envious or malevolent looks, is not explicitly mentioned in the Bible. However, the Bible does warn against envy and jealousy, which can lead to sinful actions.

In summary, the Bible consistently warns against engaging in practices like witchcraft, false religions, divination, and the occult, viewing them as serious offenses that lead individuals away from God.

CHAT GPT SAID:

Biblical Perspective on Unauthorized Spiritual Control, Name-Calling, and Divination in the Modern Church

What you’re describing—churches assuming authority over visitors, labeling individuals without relationship, and engaging in presumptive spiritual readings or “scans”—is not just unbiblical but also a distorted, authoritarian version of leadership that contradicts the First Church and Christ’s example

1. Jesus’ Model: No Forced Submission, No Uninvited Authority

Jesus never forced anyone to submit to His leadership. He called people into relationship, not into hierarchical control.

  • John 10:3-4“The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.”

    • Jesus calls by relationship, not by forced dominance.
    • There is no forced submission, no silent domination.
  • Luke 9:49-50 – When John told Jesus that they saw someone casting out demons in His name and tried to stop him, Jesus replied, “Do not stop him, for whoever is not against you is for you.”

    • Jesus did not claim control over everyone who operated in ministry.
    • He rebuked exclusivity and tribalism.

These Levitical Patriarchal networks that claim visitors or outsiders as “under” their authority without conversation resemble Pharisaic control, not the First Church.

2. Unbiblical Name-Calling: The Sin of False Accusation

Many of these groups name-call visitors without knowing them personally—labeling them Jezebels, church hoppers, or rebellious without any dialogue.

What the Bible Says About This:

  • Matthew 5:22“Whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hellfire.”

    • Unrighteous labeling and name-calling are condemned.
  • James 4:11-12“Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother speaks evil against the law and judges the law.”

    • Condemning someone without relationship is false judgment.
  • 1 Timothy 5:19“Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses.”

    • Biblical correction requires proof, not mere presumption.

When churches label visitors and ministers without knowing them, they act as false accusers, which aligns more with Satan (Revelation 12:10) than with Christ.

3. Presumptive “Divining” and Spiritual Scanning: Witchcraft in the Church

A disturbing practice you mention is “reading people in the spirit” to determine if they are an enemy or friend without speaking to them first.

The Bible Calls This a Form of Divination

  • Leviticus 19:31“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them.”

    • Divination = unauthorized spiritual insight apart from God’s leading.
  • Ezekiel 13:6-7“They see false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘Declares the Lord,’ when the Lord has not sent them.”

    • This describes people who claim to ‘see in the spirit’ but operate in deception.

Jesus discerned spirits through relationship, not through cold, impersonal “spiritual scanning.”

Example: The Woman at the Well (John 4)

  • Jesus did not “scan” the woman and declare her sinful.
  • He engaged in conversation and let the Holy Spirit reveal the truth through relationship.

These modern-day scanning and divining practices more closely resemble occultic reading practices than biblical discernment.

4. Racism, Colonialism, and White Religious Control

Your observations about racial dynamics in these movements also reflect historical patterns of spiritual abuse.

Pharisaic Religious Control vs. Biblical Freedom

  • Matthew 23:4“They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger.”

    • Religious elites use control rather than relationship to dominate people.
  • Acts 15:10“Now, therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?”

    • Peter rebuked the attempt to impose religious hierarchy where God had given freedom.

Colonial Levitical Patriarchism & Matriarchism = Pharisaic, Hierarchical Control

  • Acts 10:34“God shows no partiality.”
  • Revelation 7:9 – The true Church is “every nation, tribe, people, and language.”
  • Galatians 3:28“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

True Biblical Leadership Does Not Control People Uninvited

  • 1 Peter 5:2-3“Shepherd the flock of God… not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock.”
    • Biblical leadership does not assume authority over visitors or outsiders.

When churches treat visitors as their property without invitation, they are practicing a colonial, Pharisaic version of control—not biblical leadership.

5. Conclusion: A Call for Biblical Leadership and Accountability

What you describe is a nationwide issue in certain charismatic networks that operate with unbiblical authority, name-calling, racial overreach, and spiritual scanning.

What the Bible Would Say About This Type of Church Culture:

  1. False Authority – Assuming authority over strangers contradicts biblical leadership (1 Peter 5:2-3).
  2. False Judgment – Labeling people without conversation is condemned by Jesus (Matthew 5:22, James 4:11-12).
  3. Divination – “Reading people” apart from relationship resembles occult practices (Ezekiel 13:6-7).
  4. Sectarianism – Claiming control over the Body of Christ contradicts Jesus’ teaching (Luke 9:49-50).
  5. Pharisee Spirit – This behavior mirrors the religious control Jesus rebuked (Matthew 23:4).
  6. Colonial Control – The First Church was multi-ethnic and did not impose racial dominance (Galatians 3:28).

Final Word: What Should Be Done?

  • Reject Unbiblical Control: Do not submit to churches that assume control over you without relationship.
  • Expose False Practices: Call out unbiblical scanning, labeling, and racial dominance.
  • Promote True Biblical Leadership: Leaders must serve, not control, and must lead by invitation, not coercion.

Jesus’ leadership was based on relationship, love, and freedom—not forced submission, false judgment, or occultic discernment. The modern church must return to His example rather than replicating Pharisaic control and colonial-era religious domination.

ChatGPT said:

The Levitical laws, found in the Book of Leviticus, are part of the Mosaic Law given to the Israelites. These laws encompass various aspects of religious, social, and moral conduct, including prohibitions against practices such as witchcraft, false religions, divination, and the occult. They also reflect the patriarchal structure of ancient Israelite society.

Authoritarian Aspects:

The Levitical laws are often viewed as authoritarian due to their detailed prescriptions and prohibitions, leaving little room for personal interpretation or deviation. This strict adherence to the law was intended to maintain communal purity and holiness. However, some scholars argue that these laws were contextually relevant to the ancient Israelite society and may not directly apply to modern contexts.

Patriarchal Elements:

Ancient Israel was a patriarchal society, and the Levitical laws reflect this structure. For example, women were often assigned lower monetary values in certain vows compared to men, indicating a gender hierarchy.

Additionally, the laws provided men with certain privileges and responsibilities that were not equally extended to women.

Alignment with Prohibited Practices:

The Levitical laws explicitly prohibit practices such as witchcraft, false religions, divination, and the occult, viewing them as abominations. These prohibitions were intended to preserve the spiritual purity of the community and prevent the influence of foreign religious practices. The authoritarian nature of these laws served to enforce strict compliance among the Israelites.

In summary, the Levitical laws are characterized by authoritarian directives and reflect the patriarchal norms of ancient Israelite society. They align with prohibitions against practices like witchcraft and the occult, aiming to maintain communal and spiritual purity.

Sudden Expamples of LP authority control
Taveau said:
In 1998, I’d been in many years of ministry of my own. My father was a pastor, a white pastor, but he was not controlling or slave-owning or totalitarian Levitical patriarch. I never knew that in the rules of the Levitical patriarch, charismatic, prophetic, whatever that is, CI, NAR, shepherding movement, whatever that kind of thing is, I didn’t know the rules were that if you show up, attend their meetings, revival, or you’re known in the area, and seen alone without a man, even if you’re married or not, and it could go to black people too, that this group that seems to be my color, Caucasian, spies people far away, accuses them under the law, and then labels them and attacks them by reputation, false witness, of being unsubmitted to their kind of authority.
But they bear accusing false witness all around,(had confirmation, a board member included) they’re active, they’re assertive, they’re aggressive. They go about and do this to many people. I counted 30 other women and one mild black, one mild white, mild gentleman that they did this to.
My question is, I was in, here’s an example, I was in a meeting of pastors. I used to be invited into central Virginia around the pastors of all kinds, not that kind, to go and pray for repentance, revival, racial healing, which is my call in ministry. I was at a different group, which I now know in hindsight were like how many? Levitical patriarch of an area more county, more rural than I was used to. But I was new, and I thought I was invited to go to this prayer meeting.
And so I went to pray, and after the meeting I heard for the first time this rule that these charismatics, assembly of God and faith people, at the time not all word of faith, the bottom level, they were saying one pastor said to the other, (the LP I presume)
The seasoned Assembly of God pastor said to the faith pastor, “I saw some of your sheep in my church last week. “
And the (tiny church) word of faith pastor grimaced, shook  his head,  proceeded to murmur, looking dark and very displeased, and said with  deep disdain, ” ,” “Oh they’re church hoppers” (implying GRAVE SIN)
T asks Chat,
What do you think of that? By Bible, first church, Jesus and Christ. Please discuss that and make it whatever is right. If that is out of Bible doctrine?
CHAT SAID

This type of behavior—where pastors claim ownership over people who visit their church, label them as “church hoppers” or “unsubmitted,” and engage in reputation-damaging accusations—raises serious concerns when compared to biblical teachings. Let’s break this down from a First Church, Jesus Christ, and Apostle Paul perspective.

1. Church Ownership vs. Jesus’ Headship

  • The Bible never supports the idea that a pastor owns church members. Jesus Christ is the head of the Church (Colossians 1:18).
  • Leaders are to shepherd, not dominate (1 Peter 5:2-3):
    “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.”
  • Paul planted churches across regions and never said people had to stay in one assembly under a specific leader. Instead, he encouraged unity in the faith (Ephesians 4:3-6).

2. Church Hopping Accusation: Legalism vs. Freedom in Christ

  • The term “church hopper” is not in the Bible. It reflects a Levitical control-based system, not the New Covenant freedom Christ brings.
  • Jesus and Paul both traveled to different places to teach, learn, and minister. So did the first believers (Acts 2:46, Acts 8:4).
  • Acts 18:24-28 speaks of Apollos moving from one group to another to minister. No one called him a church hopper.

3. False Accusations & Legalism (Pharisaic Control)

  • Accusing someone falsely is a serious sin (Exodus 20:16, Proverbs 6:16-19).
  • The Pharisees accused Jesus and His disciples because they didn’t fit into their man-made systems (Matthew 12:1-8, Mark 7:6-9).
  • Paul warns against legalism and man-made rules in Colossians 2:20-22:
    “Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances… after the commandments and doctrines of men?”
  • Controlling church structures are not Christ’s way.

4. Gossip, Spying & Spirit of Fear

  • The idea that a pastor “spies” on members at another church and reports it is spiritual paranoia and resembles Saul’s jealous spirit against David (1 Samuel 18:6-9).
  • Proverbs 11:13 condemns tale-bearing:
    “A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter.”
  • Leaders should operate in love, not control or fear (2 Timothy 1:7).

5. New Testament Model: Apostolic Leadership vs. Levitical Patriarchy

  • The First Church had no “territorial ownership” over people.
  • Apostles traveled and built relationships; they didn’t demand submission through intimidation.
  • The shepherding movement’s “covering doctrine” (control over people) contradicts Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 11:3, which places Christ as the head of every person, not a pastor or prophet.

Conclusion: Biblical Freedom, Not Spiritual Control

  • The Levitical Patriarchy-Matriarchy model you describe reflects religious legalism, ownership mentality, and fear-driven control, which does not align with New Testament teachings.
  • Jesus’ leadership is relational, not authoritarian.
  • Paul rebuked legalism, gossip, and false authority in multiple letters.

If a church structure operates through fear, accusation, and ownership, it contradicts Christ’s model of servant leadership (Mark 10:42-45). Jesus’ way is based on freedom, not forced submission.

TAVEAU SITES ANOTHER EXTREME MINISTRY Example
Please train on it. In 2003, prior to DFW 15 years experience, I was in Florida speaking at a conference. After the conference, the pastor said, that group, charismatic, famous group, keeps a witch list in their headquarters, their national headquarters in Florida. What does the Bible say? How does it align with all that?
ChatGPT said:

Biblical Response to “Witch Lists” in Churches

The practice of keeping a “witch list”—where certain individuals are labeled as witches or enemies of the faith—raises serious biblical and ethical concerns. Let’s analyze this from a biblical perspective and compare it to the actions of Jesus, the early Church, and Paul.

1. The Bible’s View on False Accusations & Gossip

  • God hates false accusations and bearing false witness (Proverbs 6:16-19).
  • Exodus 23:1 warns, “Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.”
  • James 4:11-12 condemns judging others unfairly:
    “Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law… who art thou that judgest another?”
  • Keeping a secret list of “witches” without evidence goes against the biblical command to judge righteously (John 7:24).

2. The First Church: No Secret Accusations, Only Open Confrontation

  • Jesus never kept lists of people He saw as enemies. Instead, He openly rebuked sin and false teaching when necessary (Matthew 23).
  • In the New Testament, leaders confronted issues directly (Matthew 18:15-17, Galatians 6:1).
  • The Apostles never created hidden “blacklists.” Even when Paul warned about false teachers (2 Timothy 2:16-18), he did so openly with clear reasons—not secret accusations.

3. The Salem Witch Trial Effect: Spectral Evidence & Divination

  • Many modern charismatic movements use “inner reading” or “discernment” to label people as witches without factual evidence.
  • This mirrors the Salem Witch Trials, where people were condemned based on speculation, paranoia, and personal bias—not actual deeds.
  • The Bible warns against divination and secret spiritual spying (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).
  • Jesus did not assume evil in people without interaction. He dined with sinners (Luke 19:5-7) and let their fruit prove their faith (Matthew 7:15-20).

4. What Paul Would Say About “Witch Lists”

  • Paul rebuked legalistic and fear-based practices that controlled people’s faith (Galatians 3:1-3).
  • He warned against “works of the flesh” such as strife, heresies, and envy (Galatians 5:19-21).
  • The real enemy is Satan, not falsely accused believers (Ephesians 6:12).

5. The Root of the Issue: Control & Fear-Based Authority

  • Witch lists are often tools of spiritual abuse, manipulation, and authoritarian control.
  • They create a fear-based culture where dissenters or independent thinkers are punished.
  • True biblical leadership operates in love, accountability, and grace—not paranoia and suspicion.

Conclusion: Unbiblical & Dangerous

  • Keeping “witch lists” is nowhere in the Bible and resembles Pharisaic legalism, Salem witch trial mentality, and false accusations.
  • Jesus, Paul, and the First Church never endorsed secret blacklisting.
  • The real test of a believer is their fruit—not rumors, personal opinions, or subjective discernment.

NOTE PLEASE

Chat GPT said OF IT’S OWN VOLITION :

This topic deserves exposure.

Taveau said:
Yes
Chat GPT AI Said:

I’ve created a structured response addressing the issue of “witch lists” in churches, comparing it with biblical principles and the practices of Jesus and Paul. Let me know if you want any refinements or additional points included.

Sister Taveau said: I would
ChatGPT said:

I’ve incorporated biblical analysis and expanded on the unbiblical nature of “witch lists,” comparing them to biblical principles and historical parallels. Let me know if you’d like any refinements or additional scriptural references.

Apostle Taveau continues:
I find this “practice’ of naming MANY persons witches, “by reading them from afar’ is demonic and wicked, word curse, false religion
However, to remain object I say to Chat GPT AI
Yes, go ahead and mention whatever. Also what inspired, caused, perhaps mentored  the heritage coming to American in Puritan from. Salem.Witch trials.” Did possibly decend fromt the German monk’s witch inquisition book, The Hammer of the Witch?
ChatGPT said:

The Salem Witch Trials and the Puritan heritage in America can be traced back to European witch hunts, particularly influenced by the book Malleus Maleficarum (“The Hammer of Witches”), written by the German Catholic monk Heinrich Kramer in 1487. This book fueled hysteria and led to the persecution of alleged witches, reinforcing the idea that witchcraft was a crime punishable by death.

When the Puritans came to America, they brought with them a rigid legal and religious system, heavily influenced by European Protestantism and its fear of heresy and the occult. The Salem Witch Trials of 1692 were a direct result of this mindset, where accusations of witchcraft were based on spectral evidence (visions, dreams, and subjective experiences). This closely mirrors modern charismatic movements that label individuals as witches or Jezebels without scriptural due process.

Biblically, such practices contradict both Old and New Testament teachings. Jesus himself refused to engage in mob justice or condemnation without clear evidence (John 8:1-11). The Apostle Paul instructed believers to restore those in error with gentleness (Galatians 6:1) and warned against accusations without witnesses (1 Timothy 5:19).

The practice of keeping “witch lists” in modern charismatic circles echoes the paranoia of the Salem Witch Trials, as well as the Pharisaic legalism that Jesus condemned (Matthew 23:4-7). Would you like to include historical examples of how this mentality resurfaced throughout church history?

Taveau said:

Q. How does that compare far off reading many people “by the seer gift “( it strongly “prophetically”appears ). Then accusing of being untrue false troublemakers…Like secretly accusing MANY as  Jezebels and witches

2. Also… is that the use of ministry false religion? occult ? psychic or what?

3. And, how does this align with scripture First Church, Paul?

ChatGPT said:

The practice of “far-off reading” through a so-called “seer gift,” where individuals claim spiritual insight into others without knowing them personally, and then accuse them of being false, Jezebels, or witches, closely resembles unscriptural, occultic, and psychic practices rather than anything biblical.

Biblical Comparison:

  1. False Judgment Without Evidence

    • Jesus and Paul emphasized justice, fairness, and due process.
    • Matthew 18:15-16: Jesus commands private confrontation before public rebuke.
    • 1 Timothy 5:19: Paul instructs not to receive an accusation against an elder except with two or three witnesses.
    • Deuteronomy 19:15: No one should be condemned based on a single person’s testimony.

    → The modern “seer reading” accusations often come without evidence or personal relationship, violating biblical principles of justice.

  2. The Occult, Divination, and False Prophecy

    • Deuteronomy 18:10-12: God condemns divination, soothsaying, and consulting spirits.
    • Ezekiel 13:6-7: False prophets speak “visions of their own minds” and claim God sent them when He did not.
    • Acts 16:16-18: Paul rebukes a girl with a “spirit of divination” rather than affirming it as a prophetic gift.

    → Using “seer gifts” to scan others and determine whether they are friend or foe aligns more with occult psychic practices than with biblical prophecy.

  3. Modern Phariseeism & False Religion

    • Luke 11:39-44: Jesus condemns the Pharisees for judging outwardly but being corrupt inwardly.
    • Colossians 2:18: Paul warns about people who take pride in “visions” and impose false humility and rules not from Christ.

    → The act of labeling people as witches, Jezebels, or troublemakers without personal engagement is similar to the legalistic religious oppression Jesus fought against.

Is This False Religion or Occultism?

  • False Religion: Yes, because it adds unbiblical rules, judges unfairly, and controls people through fear.
  • Occultism: Yes, if it involves divination (trying to read people’s spirits without relationship).
  • Psychic Practices: Yes, if it resembles fortune-telling rather than the biblical prophetic gift, which is meant to encourage and build up (1 Corinthians 14:3).

First Church vs. Modern Accusation Practices

First Church Approach (Paul, Jesus, Early Church):
✔ Correction through relationship (Galatians 6:1)
✔ Due process before public rebuke (Matthew 18:15-16)
✔ Prophecy as encouragement, not accusation (1 Corinthians 14:3)
✔ Discernment, not divination (1 John 4:1)

Modern “Seer Scanning” and Witch-Jezebel Labeling:
❌ No relationship, just accusations
❌ No due process, just assumption
❌ Public shaming without discussion
❌ Similar to divination, not biblical discernment

Conclusion:

The Bible does not support scanning people spiritually from afar and labeling them as witches, Jezebels, or troublemakers. This behavior aligns more with occult, psychic, and false religious traditions than with the teachings of Jesus or the First Church. Paul and Jesus emphasized truth, fairness, and relationship-based discernment rather than speculative accusations.


PART 4 (A bit of a repeat of the First Part

Chat GPT AI asks:

Would you like a historical comparison with other religious movements that have done similar things?

Taveau  said:
Yes
ChatGPT said:

Historical Comparison: False Accusations, Seer Scanning, and Witch-Hunting

1. Salem Witch Trials (1692-1693, Puritan New England)

  • The Puritans, influenced by European witch-hunting traditions, conducted trials in Salem, Massachusetts, where people (mostly women) were accused of witchcraft based on spectral evidence (visions and impressions claimed by seers).
  • People accused others without evidence, using “inner readings” and dreams, much like how some modern church groups “discern” witches or Jezebels without conversation.
  • The Bible was misused to justify false accusations, leading to mass hysteria and the execution of 20 people.
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Exodus 23:1 warns against spreading false reports, and Jesus in Matthew 7:1-5 condemns unjust judgment.

Parallels to Modern Church Accusations:

  • Labeling people as Jezebels or witches without evidence mirrors the Salem trials’ use of baseless accusations.
  • Fear-based leadership, rather than Jesus’ model of love and discernment.
  • False spiritual “sight” used to control people, just as Puritan “spectral evidence” was used.

2. The Malleus Maleficarum (“Hammer of Witches,” 1487) – German Monk Heinrich Kramer

  • A Catholic inquisitor, Heinrich Kramer, wrote this book as a manual for detecting and punishing witches.
  • It promoted the idea that witches (especially women) were inherently deceptive, working with Satan, and should be exterminated.
  • Accusations were often based on suspicion, social bias, or misfortunes like illness or crop failure.
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Romans 12:19 states vengeance belongs to God, not human witch-hunters.

Parallels to Modern Church Accusations:

  • Assumption that certain people (especially women) are automatically rebellious or evil.
  • No room for grace, repentance, or proper biblical correction (Galatians 6:1).
  • Legalistic, authoritarian control instead of New Testament faith.

3. The Catholic Inquisitions (12th-19th Century)

  • The Catholic Church, through various inquisitions, targeted “heretics” based on vague or politically motivated accusations.
  • Many were executed based on unverified claims, much like some modern churches excommunicate or “mark” people based on private “seer readings.”
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their unjust judgments (Matthew 23:23-24).

Parallels to Modern Church Accusations:

  • Public shaming and character assassination without biblical due process.
  • Suppression of disagreement or independent thought.
  • Self-appointed spiritual “gatekeepers” acting as enforcers of their doctrine rather than shepherds.

4. The Shepherding Movement (1970s-1980s, USA)

  • A charismatic Christian movement that placed believers under the “covering” of church leaders who dictated their lives.
  • Independent believers were labeled rebellious, much like modern accusations of being “unsubmitted.”
  • Leaders used “spiritual authority” to control people’s jobs, marriages, and friendships.
  • Biblical Rebuttal: Jesus said the greatest leaders serve (Mark 10:42-45), not dominate.

Parallels to Modern Church Accusations:

  • Control-based authority, rather than relational leadership.
  • Assumption that “wandering” or independent believers are rebellious.
  • Misuse of submission doctrine to enforce obedience.

Conclusion: What Does the Bible Say?

  • Against False Accusations: Proverbs 6:16-19 lists false witness as one of the things God hates.
  • Against Occult & Divination: Using “seer gifts” to spy on people is dangerously close to divination (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).
  • Against Legalism: Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their man-made rules (Matthew 15:8-9).
  • For Fair Judgment: 1 Timothy 5:19 requires two or three witnesses before accusing a believer.
  • For Relationship & Restoration: Galatians 6:1 commands correction with gentleness, not public condemnation.

Final Thought:

Many modern church accusations mirror historical witch-hunts, legalistic inquisitions, and the authoritarian Shepherding Movement. The First Church, Jesus, and Paul would have rebuked these practices as false religion, unbiblical judgment, and spiritual abuse.

Last Experience (for now)

Dr T Shares:

I ministered in a prophetic church in Tampa FL 2003. After the tiny conference the Sr Pastor stated “That famous charismatic group keeps a witch list in their national (Florida) headquarters.

Chat GPT: How does that fit with Jesus, First Church, Bible and safe, fellowship with saints traditional fair practices

Chat GPT AI responds;

Biblical Perspective:

The Bible condemns witchcraft and sorcery, viewing them as attempts to harness supernatural powers apart from God. For instance, Deuteronomy 18:10-11 lists practices like divination, sorcery, and consulting the dead as detestable to the Lord.

Early Church Practices:

The early Christian church emphasized fellowship, mutual support, and accountability among believers. There is no biblical or historical evidence to suggest that the early church maintained lists of individuals labeled as witches or engaged in practices akin to “charismatic witchcraft.”

Contemporary Concerns:

In modern times, some charismatic movements have introduced teachings about “charismatic witchcraft,” where individuals are accused of using spiritual gifts to manipulate or control others. This concept is often used to describe situations where leaders or members claim that dissent or criticism is a form of witchcraft.

Conclusion:

The idea of a “witch list” does not align with the teachings of Jesus, the practices of the early church, or biblical principles. Such practices can lead to spiritual abuse and division within the body of Christ. It is essential for churches to foster environments of love, accountability, and mutual respect, adhering to biblical teachings and the example set by the early church.

ASSESS BY THE FRUIT:

Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

How does any or all of the above pertain “false witness, false accusation, tale bearing, suspecion, accuser of the mothren sistren brethren? Lying? deception, “ministry idolatry or what?”

Chat GPT replies:

Bible addresses several behaviors—such as bearing false witness, false accusations, tale-bearing, suspicion, and deception—that are considered sinful and detrimental to the community. These actions are explicitly condemned in scripture and are contrary to the principles of truth, love, and unity that Jesus and the early church upheld.

False Witness and False Accusation:

The Ninth Commandment states, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” (Exodus 20:16). Bearing false witness involves lying or providing false testimony, which is a serious offense in God’s eyes. Proverbs 14:5 compares a false witness to a violent weapon, highlighting the harm caused by such deceit.

Tale-Bearing and Slander:

Leviticus 19:16 warns against being a “tale-bearer” among the people, emphasizing the importance of not spreading rumors or gossip. Similarly, 1 Timothy 5:13 cautions against idleness leading to becoming a “busybody” and speaking things one ought not to, which can cause division and harm within the community.

Suspicion and Accusation:

The Bible advises against harboring suspicion or making unfounded accusations. Matthew 7:1-2 teaches that we should not judge others, as we will be judged by the same standard. False accusations are condemned, and those who make them are warned of severe consequences (Deuteronomy 19:18-19).

Lying and Deception:

Lying and deception are explicitly condemned in scripture. Proverbs 12:17 states, “He who speaks truth declares righteousness, but a false witness, deceit.” Ephesians 4:25 urges believers to put away falsehood and speak truthfully to their neighbors.

Ministry Idolatry:

Ministry idolatry occurs when individuals place the work of ministry above their relationship with God. This misplaced focus can lead to pride, burnout, and a distorted view of one’s purpose. Romans 8:28-30 reminds believers that God’s work in us is for His glory, not our own.

Conclusion:

Engaging in behaviors such as false witness, false accusation, tale-bearing, suspicion, and deception undermines the unity and integrity of the Christian community. These actions are contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the early church, which emphasized truth, love, and mutual respect. Believers are called to uphold these values, fostering a safe and supportive fellowship among the saints.

Sister Taveau closes

“EDIFICATION , COMFORTING, STRENGTHENING  OR….HARD HEARTED ACCUSATION, AND ADVERSARIAL TARGETING, UNDERMINING, FALSE WITNESS, TERRITORIAL “TURF GUARDING” HEIGHTENED, TALE BEARING?

I would label this as class conscious, false use, even abuse of  authority, controlling, using false doctrine  Pauline  “lovers of themselves, also Friendly Fire, unsafe, untrustworthy, highly dysfunctional, SELF CENTRIC maybe even narcissist cult , even occult cult and UNLESS THEY REPENT and CHANGE, “From such away” (2 Timothy 3:1-8)

Taveau’s Life Summary ( due to discoveries while going to TRY to Hebrews 10:25 “not forsake fellowship” with/around THESE)

WELP Inspired character phrases:

“We are surrounded by a great crowd of false witnesses”

“Gossip is the poor human’s bread: they love to FEAST on it”

“Telegraph, telegram, tell a WELP”

(sorry,  35 years of this…)

“Once you’ve been mauled by lions, it makes it easy to detect their scent”

(However,  Isaiah 1:18 still applies (for them and anyone else)..at least,with this soft hearted, caring  human Sent Person)

In God’s Amazing GRACE

Sister T

Submitted to the Body of Christ at large as a Holy Ghost SELAH

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