“THE MINISTRY AI AND I”

(#5 of 5 ) THE CATHOLICS COMPARED TO BIBLE, JESUS, FIRST CHURCH 

“CATHOLICS, ORTHODOXY, 

PROTESTANT REFORM, VARIOUS RITES, MORE

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PREQUEL: YOU NEED TO REALIZE:

MATURE TAVEAU wonders: First Church was Jew and Gentile primarily. It was not Western European Colonial, It carried it’s cross in those perilous church planting days.. Roman Patriarchism, ministry hierarchy, controlling Phariseeism, authoritarianism, and ministry “people owning” impure turf owning, cult spirit had not seeped in the fledling church..back at the beginning. However, as the many years went by and influences grew and the seeming numbers, various worldly beliefs, superstitions big and many small Christian and secular, even false religion and customs began to set  in . Among them were Judiazers who accused Paul and were probable bothersome, distracting, even adversarial thorn  in his side.

And so it is today among the “various Christians” each of whom have “knowledge” but it is limited, often biased, cultlike and targeting, Bible thumping, negative, berating vilifying and self indulgent, immature and off the mark of Core Eternal Salvation and Pauline Ephesians Community.

Hence dig into the First Church as it slowly began to evolve and assume different teachings, big portrayals and even limit the poorer grass roots from growing up in strength and dependency more fully upon the Lord, with the deeper knowledge of the Holy Bible and less about personal life ambition or getting it’s own ways. This includes the elders, leaders and attending devout law.

NOTE: While this the Part 5 marks the End of this tiny series, it leads to specific teachings, practices, heart displays and many policies, portrayals in modern day present ambitious Christianity. So upcoming I examine ministry Patriacianism, forms legalistic, genuine roles, pastoring, patriarchal, women’s authority, Bible males and females, doctrines pertaining to such and more.. 

Each point is respectfully submitted as Philippians 2:12 Selah for person Noble Berean BIble research and more thought.

ASIDE NOTE:  T us not a debater (she the policy above in links) however, she will  discuss .

AND For all of you racing about in active ministry, I’m not in that biased System behavior: meaning that YOU can lead and have YOUR WAY but  I will be here ministering ” by divine appointment’ We are hear for YOU.

WHY CROSS BODY UNITY? Taveau is an office Deborah type. When there is a SENT Lapidoth this SHE will dwell in Ephesians 5:22,yet for now She is head of the sr office non biased training Church Ministry AND PLEASE REGARD: all of this as different Perspective “an option” a ‘viewpoint” for the leadership True Body of Christ. Sister Taveau is a long term all 5 fold office “collaborative” ministry to Christian mature leaders and genuine faith filled followers.

But lets YOU hear God your self, As she is NOT OVER YOU or UNDER any ONE PERSON or ONE GROUP as a Pauline type of Galatians 1:1-2 joyful apostle, who is also SENT Acts 17:17. and will not be controlled by any dis-ingenuine fellow ministry Big Bosses. Ahem… Dr T is  “mutually submitted to all in Pauline Ephesians 5:21

And please continue to  check back… when YOU feel it is the right time!

Sincerely

Taveau

I BEGIN PART 5

BEFORE WE TRULY START: POINTS

I asked the objective Chat GPT AI to answer the following. (note that  me doing this means that is it is open to any pure hearted “believer” from any race nation, ministry or preferred Christian style, denomination or lack there of.

Also, you have the right to research each of these big points as Pauline Noble Berean. Apostle Paul commended the Berean Jews for picking apart HIS area teaching and comparing with the Scriptures..to make sure that it aligned with them.

And here we go: 

Apostle Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

Please list the Bible First Church specific scriptural requirements that each individual, pastor ,leader, priest, pope, person, parent should ‘know” that is a “requirement’ to get into heaven and spend all eternity with Christ the Messiah, Savior.

Chat GPT AI answers back:

According to the Holy Bible, to be guaranteed eternal life in heaven, the essential requirements are:

1. Faith in Jesus Christ

• Belief in Jesus as the Son of God, the Savior: Jesus is the way to eternal life and reconciliation with God. Belief in Him is the fundamental requirement for salvation.
  • John 14:6 – “Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'”
  • John 3:16 – “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.”

2. Repentance of Sin

• Turning away from sin: Repentance is the act of turning away from sin and turning toward God in faith. It involves a change of heart and mind, seeking forgiveness for past wrongdoings.
  • Luke 13:3 – “I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
  • Acts 3:19 – “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.”

3. Confession of Faith in Christ

• Confession of Jesus as Lord: Confessing Jesus Christ as Lord is necessary for salvation, publicly acknowledging Him as the Savior of your life.
  • Romans 10:9-10 – “If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”
  • Matthew 10:32-33 – “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven.”

4. Receiving God’s Grace

• Salvation by grace through faith: Eternal life is not earned by works but is a gift from God that must be received through faith in Jesus Christ.
  • Ephesians 2:8-9 – “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.”

5. Baptism (in obedience to Jesus)

• Baptism as an act of obedience: While baptism itself does not save, it is a command from Jesus and symbolizes the believer’s identification with Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection. It is an outward sign of an inward transformation.
  • Mark 16:16 – “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.”
  • Acts 2:38 – “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

6. Living a Transformed Life

• Obedience to God’s commands: Genuine faith results in a transformed life, one that seeks to follow Jesus, obey His commands, and live in accordance with His Word. A believer is expected to live out their faith through love, service, and good deeds, empowered by the Holy Spirit.
  • John 14:15 – “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
  • Matthew 7:21 – “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”

7. Endurance in Faith

• Persevering in the faith until the end: A true believer is someone who remains faithful to Christ and endures trials and hardships, trusting in God’s promises.
  • Matthew 24:13 – “But he who endures to the end shall be saved.”
  • Revelation 2:10 – “Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.”

8. The Holy Spirit’s Role

• Indwelling of the Holy Spirit: When a person believes in Jesus Christ, they receive the Holy Spirit as a seal of their salvation. The Holy Spirit empowers believers to live a godly life and serves as a guarantee of eternal life.
  • Ephesians 1:13-14 – “In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.”

Summary:

• Faith in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and Savior.
• Repentance from sin and turning to God.
• Confession of Jesus as Lord.
• Receiving God’s grace by faith, not works.
• Baptism as an outward sign of the inner change.
• Living a transformed life through obedience to Christ’s teachings.
• Endurance in faith until the end.
• Indwelling of the Holy Spirit as a seal and guarantee.

These principles, rooted in biblical doctrine, ensure that a person is secure in their salvation and is living in alignment with God’s plan for eternal life. According to John 10:28, Jesus promises: “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of My hand.”

PASTOR Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

Please defining by using Scripture, and First Church history, doctrines by Christ, Paul, First Apostles, and defining fruit:…. describe what was going on in history in that day when first church began to infiltrated by the culture (Roman, Greece, false teaching , sects) and how this led to both Catholicism, Greek Orthodox.. and what is protestantism as demonstrated not by known Group but  leader fruit.

Chat GPT AI replies:

The First Church and Its Historical Context

The First Church, established after Jesus’ resurrection and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (Acts 2), was deeply rooted in the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles, and early biblical doctrine. The church focused on faith in Jesus as the Messiah, repentance, salvation by grace, and living in love and obedience to God’s Word. However, the cultural and philosophical environment of the Roman and Greek worlds—combined with false teachings, sectarianism, and political influences—soon began to affect the purity of early Christian doctrine.

I. Historical Influences on the First Church

During the first few centuries after Christ, the early church faced external pressures and internal challenges that led to various doctrinal shifts:

1. Roman and Greek Cultural Infiltration

• Roman Influence:
  The Roman Empire was the dominant political force, and its pagan religious practices (idolatry, emperor worship, and syncretism) presented constant challenges. Early Christians were persecuted for rejecting these Roman customs, but some began blending cultural practices into Christian worship.
  • Impact: Over time, some Christians compromised by incorporating pagan symbols, rituals, and festivals into worship.
• Greek Influence:
  Greek philosophy (especially Platonism and Stoicism) introduced dualism (a sharp divide between spirit and matter) and abstract theological debates that influenced doctrinal development.
  • Gnosticism: A heretical belief that claimed secret knowledge (gnosis) was necessary for salvation. It devalued the physical body and emphasized spiritual enlightenment. The Apostle Paul directly opposed Gnosticism in his epistles (e.g., Colossians 2:8-23).
• Mystery Religions: Pagan mystery religions also emphasized mystical rites and hidden rituals that infiltrated some Christian circles.

2. False Teachings and Heresies

The Apostles warned against false teachings that began infiltrating the church:

• Judaizers:
  This group insisted that Gentile Christians must follow the Mosaic Law (circumcision, dietary laws, etc.) to be saved (Acts 15, Galatians 2:16). Paul opposed them strongly, affirming that salvation is by grace alone through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9).
• Antinomianism:
  A belief that grace allowed Christians to live immoral lives without consequence. Paul condemned this view in Romans 6:1-2: “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not!”
• Docetism:
  The belief that Jesus only “seemed” to have a physical body, denying His full humanity. John condemned this teaching in 1 John 4:2-3.
• Arianism:
  A 4th-century heresy denying the divinity of Christ, claiming He was a created being. This led to the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and the formation of the Nicene Creed.
• Gnosticism:
  Its dualistic and elitist doctrines were seen as a direct attack on the simple, pure gospel of Jesus Christ.

3. Sectarian Divisions and Leadership Power Struggles

• As churches expanded geographically, sectarian divisions arose (e.g., Corinthians claiming allegiance to Paul, Apollos, Cephas—1 Corinthians 1:12-13).
• Some leaders sought control, dominance, and hierarchical authority, moving away from the servant leadership model of the First Church (Acts 20:28).

II. Doctrinal Development Leading to Catholicism and Orthodoxy

1. The Birth of Catholicism (Early Centralized Authority)

• Centralization of Authority:
  As the Roman Empire declined, church leaders in Rome sought to centralize authority under a single bishop. The Bishop of Rome (later called the Pope) claimed supremacy over all other bishops based on the belief that Peter was the “rock” upon which the church was built (Matthew 16:18).

  • This centralization moved away from the First Church’s model of mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21) and local church autonomy.

• Doctrinal Additions and Rituals:
  Catholicism began adding practices not found in the New Testament:

  • Veneration of Mary and Saints
  • Prayers for the dead (Purgatory)
  • Transubstantiation (belief that the bread and wine in communion literally become the body and blood of Christ).
  • Sacraments as channels of grace: Salvation was increasingly tied to participation in church rituals (baptism, Eucharist, confession, etc.) rather than personal faith in Christ alone.

• Political Power: The church became intertwined with the Roman state under Emperor Constantine (4th century), leading to further compromises.

2. Eastern Orthodoxy

• The Eastern Orthodox Church developed from the eastern half of the Roman Empire (centered in Constantinople).
• Orthodox theology retained early church traditions but emphasized mystical union with God and icon veneration (praying before images of Jesus, Mary, and saints).
• While similar to Catholicism, Orthodoxy rejected papal supremacy and certain Western doctrines (e.g., the Filioque controversy in the Nicene Creed).

III. The Protestant Reformation

The Protestant Reformation (16th century) was a response to Catholicism’s doctrinal errors and authoritarian control:

Key Doctrinal Principles of the Reformation:

1. Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone) – The Bible is the ultimate authority for faith and practice (2 Timothy 3:16).
2. Sola Fide (Faith Alone) – Salvation is by faith alone, not works or church sacraments (Ephesians 2:8-9).
3. Sola Gratia (Grace Alone) – Salvation is a free gift from God, not earned (Romans 3:24).
4. Solus Christus (Christ Alone) – Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and humanity (1 Timothy 2:5).
5. Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God Alone) – All worship and glory belong to God, not to the church or saints.

The Reformation rejected:

• Papal authority
• Indulgences (payments for forgiveness of sins)
• Veneration of Mary and saints

IV. The Fruit of Each Tradition Compared to First Church Doctrine

• First Church: Salvation by grace through faith, local leadership under Christ’s headship, and a simple gospel message (Acts 2:42).
• Catholicism: Emphasized hierarchical authority, sacraments, and church traditions. Salvation became tied to works and rituals.
• Orthodoxy: Focused on mystical union with God but retained veneration of saints and icons.
• Protestantism: Sought to restore biblical doctrine but led to further denominational splits.

Conclusion:

While each tradition has preserved elements of the original faith, the First Church’s emphasis on faith, grace, servant leadership, and the authority of Christ remains the biblical model. The true fruit of any tradition is seen in love, holiness, humility, and faithfulness to God’s Word (Galatians 5:22-23).

Taveau asks Chat GPT AI to name extra rituals in Catholics, Orthodox and Protestantism

Chat GPT AI replies:

Early Christian History: The First Church vs. Catholic and Greek Orthodox Traditions

To understand the differences between Jesus’ teachings, the First Church, Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy, let’s explore:

1. The First Church (33–100 AD)
2. The Development of Catholic and Orthodox Traditions
3. Key Differences Between the Bible, Greek Orthodoxy, and Catholicism

1. The First Church (33–100 AD) – Biblical Christianity

A. What Did Jesus and the Apostles Establish?

• Jesus preached salvation by faith (John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9).
• No official “church organization”—early believers met in homes (Acts 2:46, Romans 16:5).
• Leadership was shared among elders (πρεσβύτεροι, presbyteroi) and deacons (διάκονοι, diakonoi) (Titus 1:5, Acts 14:23).
• No hierarchical structure—no “Pope,” no “Patriarch,” no official “clergy.”

B. What Did the First Christians Believe?

• Authority of Scripture – The apostles taught that God’s Word was the final authority (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Corinthians 4:6).
• Baptism as a symbol – Representing death and resurrection, not a work for salvation (Romans 6:3-4).
• The Lord’s Supper (Communion) as symbolic – Done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice (1 Corinthians 11:24-25).
• Jesus as the only mediator between God and humans (1 Timothy 2:5).

C. Early Persecution (100–313 AD)

• Christians were hunted by Rome for refusing to worship the emperor.
• Many leaders like Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp were martyred.
• By 313 AD, Christianity had no central human leader—it was still a network of independent churches.

2. The Rise of Catholicism and Orthodoxy

A. When Did Christianity Split into Catholic and Orthodox?

• In 313 AD, Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity (Edict of Milan).
• In 325 AD, Constantine organized the Council of Nicaea, where bishops began to gain political power.
• In 1054 AD, the Great Schism split Christianity into:
  • Roman Catholic Church (West – based in Rome, led by the Pope).
  • Greek Orthodox Church (East – based in Constantinople, led by Patriarchs).

B. Differences Between Catholic and Orthodox Christianity

3. Contrasting the Bible, Greek Orthodoxy, and Catholicism

A. Salvation – By Faith or Works?

• Biblical View: Jesus’ sacrifice is enough; no purgatory needed.
• Orthodox View: Theosis (becoming like God) is a process even after death.
• Catholic View: Purgatory purifies sins before reaching heaven.

B. Authority – Who Leads the Church?

• Biblical View: No Pope or hierarchy—elders led local churches.
• Orthodox View: Patriarchs lead but are not infallible.
• Catholic View: The Pope is infallible when speaking “ex cathedra.”

C. The Virgin Mary – Highly Venerated or Respected?

• Biblical View: Mary was blessed but needed salvation like everyone else (Luke 1:47).
• Orthodox View: Mary is honored but not as powerful as Jesus.
• Catholic View: Mary is almost on equal status with Christ.

D. Worship and Images – Icons vs. Idols

• Biblical View: Worship without images.
• Orthodox View: Icons are allowed, but not worshipped.
• Catholic View: Statues and relics are venerated, sometimes with prayers.

Final Summary: Which One Resembles Jesus and the First Church?

Who Follows the Bible the Closest?

1. The First Church followed the Bible alone.
2. Greek Orthodoxy preserved some traditions but added icons and Theosis.
3. Catholicism added the most traditions (Pope, purgatory, Mary worship, sacraments).

Conclusion

• The First Church resembled Jesus the most—simple faith, no hierarchy, and no extra rituals.
• Orthodoxy is closer to the Bible than Catholicism but still has extra traditions.
• Catholicism changed the most, making the Pope the supreme ruler and adding many doctrines not found in the Bible.

The Bottom Line “TO BE RECOGNIZED, PERCEIVED, TRUSTED BY FRUIT

..minus famous NAMES what is the FRUIT to look for

(in each Christ Professing Bible Based Movement)

Sister Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

In present day bible believing Christianity, Define by doctrines not names, but by a noticeable FRUIT…which is found in a key Bible verse be they an Orthodox, a Catholic, Protestant..and/or any other free spirit, new move, off beat appearing.. Christian type not mentioned BY BIBLE FRUIT?

Chat GPT AI answers:

To define various Christian traditions today—Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic, and others—it is best to use the Bible-based fruit of their doctrines and practices rather than denominational labels. Let’s break this down using doctrinal markers, biblical fruit, and scriptural authority to discern how each type of Christianity aligns with biblical teachings

1. Defining “Bible Fruit”

Jesus emphasized that followers would be known by their fruit:

• Matthew 7:16-17 (KJV): “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.”
• Galatians 5:22-23 (KJV): The fruit of the Spirit includes “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance.”

Doctrines should produce spiritual transformation and Christlike character, marked by humility, service, love for others, and unity. Now, let’s examine the key groups:

2. Protestant Christianity

• Key Doctrines:

  • Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone): Belief that the Bible is the sole authority for faith and practice.
  • Salvation by Faith Alone (Sola Fide): Justification comes by grace through faith in Christ, not by works.
  • Priesthood of All Believers: All believers have direct access to God without needing a human mediator.

• Biblical Fruit:

  • Focus on personal relationship with Christ and individual Bible study.
  • Evangelism and missions are often emphasized.
  • Some Protestant groups (especially Word of Faith, Pentecostal, etc.) focus on spiritual gifts but may drift toward emotionalism or excesses if not grounded.

• Biblical Concerns:

  • Certain movements may become overly individualistic or split into factions (1 Corinthians 1:12-13).
  • Legalism or doctrinal rigidity can creep in.

3. Eastern Orthodox Christianity

• Key Doctrines:

  • Theosis (Union with God): Emphasis on spiritual transformation and becoming more like Christ.
  • Holy Tradition: Scripture and Church Tradition are considered equal authorities.
  • Sacraments: Heavy focus on the Eucharist, baptism, and other sacraments as means of grace.

• Biblical Fruit:

  • Strong emphasis on worship, reverence, and awe in the presence of God (John 4:24).
  • Unity and community life are central, often fostering strong relationships and accountability.

• Biblical Concerns:

  • Overemphasis on tradition may risk diminishing the authority of Scripture.
  • Some teachings can lean toward ritualism or works-based salvation.

4. Roman Catholic Christianity

• Key Doctrines:

  • Authority of the Church: The Pope is considered the vicar of Christ, and Church tradition is equally authoritative with Scripture.
  • Sacraments as Essential for Salvation: Baptism, Eucharist, confession, and other sacraments are viewed as necessary channels of grace.
  • Marian Doctrines: Emphasis on the veneration of Mary as the “Mother of God” and her intercessory role.

• Biblical Fruit:

  • Strong emphasis on works of mercy, charity, and social justice (Matthew 25:35-40).
  • Devotion to prayer and reverence for the sacred.

• Biblical Concerns:

  • Potential for legalism or reliance on rituals over a personal relationship with Christ (Colossians 2:16-17).
  • Doctrines surrounding Mary and the saints can overshadow Christ’s central role (1 Timothy 2:5).

5. Other Christian Groups

• Charismatic / Pentecostal: Focus on the gifts of the Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Emphasis on prophecy, healing, and tongues. When grounded, this produces bold evangelism and vibrant worship. However, excesses or emotionalism without discernment may cause division or false teaching (1 John 4:1).

• Non-denominational Evangelicals: Often characterized by simplicity and focus on the essentials—faith in Christ, Bible teaching, and evangelism. However, some may lack accountability or sound doctrine, leading to superficial teaching (Hebrews 5:12-14).

• Anabaptist (e.g., Amish, Mennonites): Emphasize separation from the world, pacifism, and community life (Matthew 5:9). While their devotion is admirable, extreme separation may hinder outreach and cultural engagement (Matthew 28:19-20).

6. Comparison of All Groups by Biblical Fruit

• Unity with Christ: Protestantism emphasizes personal faith and direct access to God, while Orthodoxy and Catholicism emphasize communal worship and tradition. Both can bear fruit if focused on Christ.
• Salvation: All groups affirm the centrality of Christ’s atoning work but differ on how grace is received (faith alone vs. faith plus sacraments).
• Scriptural Authority: Protestants hold Scripture as the sole authority, while Orthodox and Catholic groups place tradition alongside it. Scripture should remain the final test (2 Timothy 3:16).
• Leadership and Authority:
  • Early church leadership was servant-based (Ephesians 5:21). Hierarchical structures arose later.
  • The first church did not have authoritarian headship or mandated submission under one person.

Conclusion: Who Reflects Christ Most Closely?

The group that most accurately reflects the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) and biblical doctrines of love, humility, servant leadership, and faith in Christ’s sufficiency aligns most closely with the first church. True Christianity is not about labels but about producing Christlike character and sound doctrine (Titus 2:1).

“FYI CBU Is NOT only about the FORM, the LOOK or the LOOT..

it’s about the Ministry Leader, Lay, remaining, true FRUIT”

CLOSING: However, we will end this with PART 6, later for it expands not just to Catholics but to ALL forms, Bible believing Types and Styles, sects “proven governing authority” the HOT TOPICS Men and women… GOVERNING AUTHORITY(First Church) “was it all servant leadership or more authoritarian, like now? WHO was viewed as OVER whom in ministry and church order? and what about the WOMEN were they lesser, feared, distrusted, and commanded to be “UNDER each Christian Man?)

However, She is very patient and will post on the A NEW MINI SERIES…but it significantly ties in with THE CHURCH as lead to the Deep Dive in Patriarchism, L Matriarchism, control, Elder Levitical Patriarchism, Men and Women and certain types of seer charismatics, MORE!

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