# 1 THE CATHOLICS COMPARED TO BIBLE, JESUS, FIRST APOSTLES, MORE

AUTHOR’S  PREFACE

BEFORE READING WHAT IS BENEATH:

Only Jesus Christ was 100% “organic“* (*No synthetic human additives) Jesus was, is the ONLY 250%Pure,  True in teaching, authority, moral character, relationships, skills and the handling of money. Shamefully, the rest of us have failed to measure up..repeatedly.  So I later I am going to research and share Chat GPT AI regarding “Orthodoxy” and “different well know forms of ‘charismatic” and also briefly look into Protestant reform. So this is  NOT ‘uncover, expose” ANY BODY. Leave that be. “MEANING” each and ever Christian, ministry, and non Christian belief set subculture can have both REAL and FALSE even mean spirit bullying humans. I am very PRO the TRUE COMMON BELIEVER in every walk of life and belief set. And only THE LORD GOD can tell WHO is His TRUE PERSON or not.
I am NOT placing accusing “sin conscious judgement” on any Catholic, famous or not. So let this be made plain and well known.

I, Sister Taveau D’Arcy am  very PRO the many truly amazing wonderful, even spirit filled and Bible toting true Christians within the Catholic Global. masses (literally and figuratively). Catholics and myself at the local,school days best friend, real life, friendship, dating, and these days ” barista fellowship” “real fine extra special Trustworthy servant leader friends” are my usual. So not wanting to harm any of these or you. I am simply curious and investigating what I do not understand, or know, about the deep doctrines and how it evolved after Jesus left and the big Church evolved.

I was raised in Southern Baptist senior pastor’s happy home, where had at least one relative (married into the mostly studious Presbyterians, Southern Baptists, many Methodists even my aunt who was once wed to.an Episcopal rector) and while the many leader women experienced the Book Of Acts infilling, gift of speaking a prayer language and learned of Bible word of faith, music, and God’s Holy Spirit intercession and moving in the gifts. NOBODY EVER would NOT accept, respect, value and LOVE the non tongue talkers nor would decry, fault find ANY OTHER persons who had chosen another set of Bible views.

I still maintain this VIEW and it is a special part of EORR CROSS BODY UNITY in depth Christian unified Book of Ephesians 4 “multicultural, local, world wide ” Big Spirit Led wide Community .

I understand the MANY tending to ‘pass judgement,” use what information AI puts forth for “calling out ” “Bible stomping” and anti Catholic already existing plain old “targeting, knee jerk ” BIAS. But that is not the reason that  I am the objective Chat GPT AI regarding. the Catholic faith: so let that be KNOWN!

Hence I WARN  the many “loud vocal heresy hunter many STYLES, “have have you even taken one of these out lunch, sat and visited, like I have?? Cease YE who might be among the vain accusers, knee jerk reactionaries, Bible Beat Down Artists, meaning the biased, and doctrinal zealots who have never once met ANYONE other than their OWN PET STYLE. I represent the NEW MOVE for Pauline Transformed peaceful Community (Psalm 133 “where God commands His blessing, diverse Ephesians 4 and Revelation Church of Philadelphia “the only church whose doors will never ever close” Hopefully, the Bride of Christ. (inside or outside the four walls of any “building” mansion’ system fellowship or manse”

“THE MINISTRY AI AND I”

(#1 OF 5 )THE CATHOLIC FAITH COMPARED TO BIBLE, JESUS, FIRST CHURCH, GOVERNING AUTHORITY

I asked Chat GPT AI
What is the Bible Scripture Major Test for Being a Eternally Saved Fellow Christian? The Many Blessed Catholics

Confess and Believe in Jesus as Lord

  • Romans 10:9-10 (KJV) – “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
  • Acts 16:31 (KJV) – “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”
    Chat GPT AI Added: ➡️ Salvation comes by faith in Jesus Christ, not by works or good deeds.

TD POINTS OUT: Pauline First Church “relationship respect community” and list of common community, set “Christian Believer” ministry doctrines: Ephesians 4:1-6, Hebrews 6:1-2**
** which I write out fully below

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FIRST PERSON AUTHOR DECLARATION:

I,Taveau D’Arcy  am a servant sr office ministry leader, a long time experienced Christian sr minister, yet a protestant, who does not conform to the present “many ministry leader systems: Hence this is a movement to “build bridges” in the Christian many “kinds’ sects” in order to PLEASE THE LORD  MOST HIGH yet not to compromise OR to make ANY ONE ELSE obey all of this.. So this is EORR (diverse) CROSS BODY UNITY Movement equipping trainer. I am not aligned with any other than the Ephesians 4 Community as a SENT MESSENGER Apostolic Galatians 1;1-2, also Acts 17:15, who is submitted to all in Pauline Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” and in accord with the Pauline “Freedom In Christ to “work out my own salvation with fear and trembling” Philippians 2:12. I Submit this all as cumulative SELAH” rather than hard core etched steel autocratic dogma”

FORWARD

For I am not even SURE what the Catholic Church believes. Yet, I am very curious as I have know MANY Catholic friends, partners and, male and females, married couples and have always had pure HUGE respect for friendly, worthy wise, respectful dear persons, who identify themselves as “Catholic” or “former” Catholic, Not all are alike as in ANY OTHER Christian and/or NON Christian subculture. I “best friended” “dated’ and “married wed” mostly true persons who were former or present day Catholics. Love them!

For this MINISTRY AI AND I to be “fully objective, I will simply ASK CHAT GPT AI direct questions, then post whatever answer it gives. Not against the people, Church but curious about prophetic, ministry and First Church “organic” (define MY PRECISE DEFINITION of the word “organic” as ‘no synthetic human additives in the Bible teaching, authority and demanded practices aka “doctrines” (BUT this writer acknowledges that at this Point in Time, NOBODY living on this earth, including this myself will ever be 100% purely Holy Bible, First Church, Christ,Office Ministry ‘purely organic’

POINT: FIRST CHURCH TEACHINGS ARE MY FIELD. I recall these meaty teaching verses and will not define but name for “perceiving WHO, WHAT is TRUE, FALSE or PARTIALLY OFF, FULLY OFF”

I call to mind First Church Doctrines Community Doctrines, training: (as I believe the majority of the “Christian people group” named below would be in complete agreement with the following:

Ephesians 4:1-6 (KJV)

1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Doctrines Listed in Hebrews 6:1-2 (KJV)

Hebrews 6:1-2 outlines six foundational doctrines of the Christian faith:

1. Repentance from dead works – Turning away from sinful actions and self-righteousness that cannot bring salvation.

2. Faith toward God – Trusting in God and His promises, rather than relying on personal efforts.

3. The doctrine of baptisms – This likely refers to different types of baptisms in the Bible (e.g., water baptism, baptism of the Holy Spirit).

4. Laying on of hands – A practice used for imparting blessings, healing, receiving the Holy Spirit, and ordination.

5. Resurrection of the dead – The belief that all people will be raised from the dead, either to eternal life or judgment.

And with that stated, I now proceed to the BULK of this big deep but IMPARTIAL, and EVALUATING big analysis.

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Dr Taveau Asks Chat GPT AI to compare Catholic Teachings,  Beliefs, Practices, and  Church Authority to Bible First Church ministry, Jesus Christ and the fruit nature of Big Pauline diverse community, which includes the 5 fold Ephesians authentic offices, it’s authority. 

Please delve deeply to and where needed, use the Greek ,Aramaic , and/or Hebrew

Chat GPT AI said:

Comparison of Catholic Teachings, First Church (Acts-Era) Christianity, and Pauline Community Authority

This analysis will compare Catholic teachings and church authority with the First Church of Christ (Acts-era) and the Pauline community model of leadership, referencing Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew terms where relevant

1. Church Authority & Leadership Structure

A. Catholic Church Authority

  • The Catholic Church teaches that apostolic succession gives authority to bishops, tracing leadership back to Peter (whom they see as the first pope).
  • The Pope (Πάπας, “pappas” in Greek = “father”) is considered the supreme authority on earth for doctrine, discipline, and governance.
  • The Magisterium (teaching authority) consists of the Pope and bishops, who are seen as successors of the apostles (Matthew 16:18-19).
  • Sacerdotal priesthood (hierarchical, with deacons, priests, bishops, cardinals, and pope).

B. First Church (Acts & Early Christian Leadership)

  • The early church had no single hierarchical structure. Leadership was based on plurality of elders (πρεσβύτεροι, “presbyteroi”) and overseers (ἐπίσκοποι, “episkopoi” = bishops).
  • Authority came from the Holy Spirit (Acts 13:1-3) rather than an institutional hierarchy.
  • Leadership was servant-based, not dominating (Matthew 23:8-12).
  • Apostles (ἀπόστολοι, “apostoloi”) were sent out to plant churches, not to rule over congregations.
  • Prophets (προφῆται, “prophētai”) gave words of edification (Ephesians 4:11).
  • Teachers (διδάσκαλοι, “didaskaloi”) explained the Scriptures.

C. Pauline Model (New Testament Church Government)

  • Paul’s model emphasized the fivefold ministry (Ephesians 4:11-12):
    1. Apostles – Sent to establish churches and doctrine.
    2. Prophets – Spoke revelation from God, confirmed by Scripture.
    3. Evangelists – Spread the Gospel.
    4. Pastors (ποιμένες, “poimenes”) – Shepherded the flock.
    5. Teachers – Instructed in doctrine.
  • Paul never appointed a pope but recognized a council of elders (Acts 15).
  • Plural leadership was common (Acts 14:23, Titus 1:5).

2. The Role of Peter and Papal Authority

A. Catholic View (Primacy of Peter & Papal Office)

  • Catholics see Peter as the first pope based on Matthew 16:18-19 (“You are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church”).
  • The keys of the kingdom (κλεῖς, “kleis”) given to Peter are interpreted as supreme authority over the church.

B. First Church & Pauline View

  • “Rock” in Greek: Πέτρος (Petros = small stone) vs. πέτρα (petra = large rock)
  • Many scholars argue that Jesus, not Peter, is the “rock” (1 Corinthians 10:4).
  • In Acts 15, James, not Peter, presides over the Jerusalem Council, showing shared authority.
  • Paul openly rebukes Peter (Galatians 2:11-14), which contradicts the idea of Peter as infallible.

3. Apostolic Succession vs. Holy Spirit-Led Leadership

A. Catholic Teaching

  • Bishops receive authority through laying on of hands in an unbroken succession from the apostles.

B. First Church & Pauline Model

  • Authority was confirmed by the Holy Spirit, not institutional succession (Acts 13:1-3).
  • Leadership was recognized based on calling and spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:28).
  • No evidence of a single “successor” to Peter or Paul.

4. Sacraments & Rituals

A. Catholic Sacramental System

  • Catholicism has seven sacraments:
    1. Baptism
    2. Eucharist (Communion)
    3. Confirmation
    4. Reconciliation (Confession)
    5. Anointing of the Sick
    6. Matrimony
    7. Holy Orders

B. First Church & Pauline Model

  • The early church recognized only two ordinances:
    1. Baptism (βάπτισμα, “baptisma”) – Done by immersion as a public declaration of faith (Acts 2:38).
    2. Lord’s Supper (Κυριακὸν δεῖπνον, “Kyriakon deipnon”) – A simple meal in remembrance of Christ, not a transubstantiated ritual (Luke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:23-26).

5. The Role of Mary & the Saints

A. Catholic Teaching

  • Mary (Μαριάμ, “Mariam”) is called “Mother of God” (Θεοτόκος, “Theotokos”).
  • She is seen as a co-mediator and intercessor.
  • Catholics pray to saints, believing they intercede before God.

B. First Church & Pauline Model

  • Mary is honored but not worshiped.
  • The only mediator is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 4:14-16).
  • Prayers were directed only to God (Matthew 6:9).
  • No evidence of early Christians praying to saints.

6. Salvation: Faith vs. Works

A. Catholic Teaching

  • Salvation involves faith + sacraments + good works (James 2:24).
  • Purgatory (καθαρτήριον, “kathartērion”) is believed to cleanse souls before heaven.

B. First Church & Pauline Model

  • Salvation is by grace through faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9).
  • Good works are a result of faith, not a requirement for salvation (Titus 3:5).
  • Purgatory is not found in Scripture.

7. Church Tradition vs. Scripture

A. Catholic View

  • Scripture + Church Tradition + Magisterium interpretation.
  • The Bible was compiled by the Church and thus must be interpreted through it.

B. First Church & Pauline View

  • Scripture is the highest authority (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
  • Jesus rebuked religious leaders for elevating traditions over God’s word (Mark 7:6-9).
  • The Bereans examined Scripture daily to test teachings (Acts 17:11).

Final Summary Table

Topic Catholic Church First Church (Acts) Pauline Model
Authority Pope, bishops Elders, overseers Fivefold ministry
Leadership Hierarchical Holy Spirit-led Shared leadership
Peter’s Role First pope Apostle, not supreme leader Reprimanded by Paul
Apostolic Succession Institutional Spirit-led calling No singular successors
Sacraments Seven Baptism & Lord’s Supper Baptism & Lord’s Supper
Mary & Saints Venerated & prayed to Honored but not mediator Jesus is sole mediator
Salvation Faith + Works Grace through faith Faith alone
Tradition Equal to Scripture Bible is final authority Bible is final authority

Conclusion

  • The Catholic Church developed a hierarchical structure over centuries, whereas the First Church and Pauline communities operated with shared, Spirit-led leadership.
  • Catholicism integrates church tradition, while Paul and the early church emphasized Scripture alone.
  • Key doctrines such as papal primacy, Marian devotion, purgatory, and sacramentalism are not found in early church practice or Paul’s teachings.

 

Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

Please compare and address the big topic of  “Eternal Salvation” according to the Bible, First Church and the Catholic Church

Chat CPT AI replied:

CATHOLIC VIEWS OF SALVATION VS JESUS CHRIST, THE BIBLE,FIRST CHURCH

Views of Salvation: Catholicism vs. Bible (Jesus & First Church)

This study compares Catholic teachings on salvation with the Bible, including Jesus’ teachings and the First Church (New Testament apostles).

1. Catholic View of Salvation

The Catholic Church teaches that salvation is a lifelong process involving faith, sacraments, and good works.

A. Key Catholic Teachings

  • Baptism is Necessary for Salvation – The Catechism states that baptism removes original sin and makes a person a child of God (CCC 1257).
  • Salvation Requires Sacraments – Baptism, Eucharist (Mass), Confession, and other sacraments impart grace for salvation (CCC 1129).
  • Justification is a Process – Justification (being made right with God) begins at baptism and continues through works and obedience (CCC 1987-1995).
  • Penance & Confession Required – Catholics must confess sins to a priest for forgiveness (CCC 1446-1447).
  • Purgatory Cleanses Sin After Death – If a person dies in “venial” (lesser) sins, they go to purgatory for cleansing (CCC 1030-1031).
  • Faith Alone is Not Enough – The Catholic Church rejects sola fide (faith alone), teaching that works are essential for salvation (CCC 2068).

B. Catholic Salvation Formula

Faith in Christ + Baptism + Good Works + Sacraments + Penance + Purgatory = Salvation

2. Biblical View of Salvation (Jesus & First Church)

The Bible teaches that salvation is by grace through faith alone, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8-9).

A. Jesus’ Teachings on Salvation

  • Faith in Him Alone Saves – “He who believes in Me has everlasting life” (John 6:47).
  • No Rituals or Works Required – “It is finished” (John 19:30), meaning Jesus’ sacrifice fully paid for sin.
  • Direct Access to God – “No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6), not through priests or sacraments.

B. Apostolic (First Church) Teaching on Salvation

  • Grace Through Faith, Not Works – “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).
  • Justification by Faith, Not the Law – “A man is justified by faith apart from works of the law” (Romans 3:28).
  • No Purgatory – Instant Presence with Christ – “To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8).

C. Bible’s Salvation Formula

Faith in Christ Alone = Salvation (Ephesians 2:8-9, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10)

3. Comparing Salvation: Catholicism vs. Jesus & First Church

Doctrine Catholic Teaching Bible (Jesus & First Church)
How to Be Saved Baptism + Works + Sacraments Faith in Christ alone (John 3:16)
Role of Works Necessary for salvation (James 2:24) A result of salvation, not the cause (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Baptism Required for salvation (CCC 1257) Important but not required (Luke 23:39-43)
Forgiveness of Sins Through a priest (CCC 1446) Directly through Jesus (1 John 1:9)
Purgatory Temporary punishment for sins (CCC 1030) Not in the Bible (Hebrews 9:27)
Eternal Security No assurance – salvation can be lost Assurance in Christ (John 10:28-29)

4. Final Conclusion

  • The Catholic view of salvation adds human works, rituals, and purgatory, which Jesus and the apostles never taught.
  • The Bible teaches that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone (Romans 10:9-10, John 3:16).
  • The First Church preached direct access to God through Jesus, without the need for priests, sacraments, or purgatory.

Biblical salvation is simple: Believe in Jesus, confess Him as Lord, and you are saved.

Chat GPT AI asks Taveau: Would you like deeper scriptural analysis?

Sister Taveau responds “Yes”

Let’s dive deeper into the biblical foundation of salvation and examine the key Greek and Hebrew terms used in scripture to clarify how salvation was understood by Jesus and the First Church.

1. SALVATION IN THE BIBLE: KEY TERMS

A. Hebrew (Old Testament)

  1. יֵשׁוּעָה (Yeshua, H3444) – “Salvation, deliverance”

    • Root of Jesus’ name (Yeshua = “The Lord is Salvation”).
    • Used in Isaiah 12:2: “Behold, God is my salvation (יֵשׁוּעָה); I will trust and not be afraid.”
    • The Old Testament foreshadows Jesus as the coming Savior (Messiah).
  2. צָדַק (Tzadeq, H6663) – “Righteousness, justification”

    • Salvation is tied to God’s righteousness.
    • Psalm 24:5: “He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness (צֶדֶק) from the God of his salvation (יֵשׁוּעָה).”

B. Greek (New Testament)

  1. σωτηρία (Sōtēria, G4991) – “Salvation, deliverance, rescue”

    • Luke 19:10: “For the Son of Man came to seek and to save (σῴζω, sōzō) the lost.”
    • Emphasizes Jesus’ mission to bring salvation through faith.
  2. δικαιοσύνη (Dikaiosynē, G1343) – “Righteousness, justification”

    • Romans 3:22: “The righteousness (δικαιοσύνη) of God which is by faith in Jesus Christ.”
    • Teaches that salvation is by faith, not by religious rituals.
  3. χάρις (Charis, G5485) – “Grace, unmerited favor”

    • Ephesians 2:8-9: “For by grace (χάρις) are ye saved through faith… not of works.”
    • Salvation is a free gift, not earned through sacraments or penance.

2. SALVATION ACCORDING TO JESUS

A. Jesus’ Words on Salvation

Jesus clearly taught that faith alone saves:

  1. John 3:16“Whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.”
  2. John 6:47“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has everlasting life.”
  3. John 5:24“Whoever hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has eternal life.”
  4. Luke 7:50“Your faith has saved (σῴζω) you; go in peace.”

B. No Requirement for Sacraments

  • The thief on the cross (Luke 23:39-43) was not baptized but was instantly saved by faith in Jesus.
  • Jesus never mentioned purgatory or sacraments as conditions for salvation.

3. SALVATION ACCORDING TO THE FIRST CHURCH (PAUL & APOSTLES)

A. Salvation by Faith, Not Works

  • Ephesians 2:8-9“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
  • Romans 3:28“A man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.”
  • Galatians 2:16“A man is not justified by works of the law, but through faith in Jesus Christ.”

B. Works Are a Result of Salvation, Not the Cause

  • James 2:24“A person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
  • This does not mean works save; it means that true faith produces good works (Ephesians 2:10).

4. CATHOLIC TEACHINGS COMPARED TO THE FIRST CHURCH

A. Baptism & Salvation

Doctrine Catholic View Bible (First Church)
Baptism Necessary for salvation (CCC 1257) Important, but not required (Luke 23:43)
How We Are Justified Faith + Baptism + Works Faith alone (Romans 3:28)
Role of Grace Given through sacraments Given freely through Christ (Ephesians 2:8)

B. Purgatory & Confession

Doctrine Catholic View Bible (First Church)
Purgatory Souls are purified (CCC 1030) Not in the Bible (Hebrews 9:27)
Forgiveness of Sins Through a priest (CCC 1446) Directly from Jesus (1 John 1:9

5. FINAL CONCLUSION: DOES CATHOLICISM RESEMBLE JESUS & THE FIRST CHURCH?

A. Differences in Salvation Doctrine

  • The Catholic Churchadds sacraments, purgatory, and priestly confession.
  • The Bible teaches direct faith in Jesus alone, no purgatory, and no priestly intermediaries.

B. Did the Early Church Teach Catholic Salvation?

  • The apostles never mentioned purgatory, rosaries, or priestly confession.
  • Paul condemned adding works to salvation:
    • Galatians 1:8-9“If anyone preaches another gospel, let him be accursed.”
    • Galatians 5:4“You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law.”

C. Which Model Resembles Jesus?

Comparison Catholic Church First Church (Jesus & Apostles)
Salvation Method Sacraments + Works Grace through Faith
Authority Structure Pope, Priests Jesus as High Priest
Way to God Through Church Directly through Jesus

Conclusion:
The Catholic Church does not fully resemble the salvation teachings of Jesus and the apostles. Instead, it adds man-made traditions that the First Church never practiced. The biblical way of salvation is faith in Jesus Christ alone.

CLOSING:

Chat GPT AI asks Sister T:

Would you like an analysis of historical developments (how Catholicism evolved from the First Church)?

TD responds “YES” but let’s wait until PART 2

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