UNDER SUBMISSION:WHEN OFFICE MINISTERS JUDGE FROM AFAR: IS IT THEIR PLACE?

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UNDER SUBMISSION:

When Office Ministers Judge from Afar: Is It Their Place?

I John 1:7 to the many of these “IF we walk in the light, as He is the light, THEN we have fellowship with another and blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin.”

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DEFINITION: 

Bible “Organic”  First Church: servant leader, all Ephesians 5:21 mutual submission, no authoritarianism, hierarchy, pecking order; 

Top Down Church (one person is in charge): After Constantine, Rome and Greece culture in filtrated, we started to get influences, to more structure, to authoritarianism, hierarchy, caste stystems and “do my way of the highway” which is now.

Many A Local Area, Deep Desperate Grass Roots

Question:

If a Christian office minister sees a lone person—male or female—and labels them as “unsubmitted,” what does that mean biblically?

And are they authorized, scripturally, to judge this from a distance without any relationship?

First: What Does “Unsubmitted” Even Mean?

In many charismatic or authoritarian circles, “unsubmitted” is a coded phrase. It usually means:

• “Not under a pastor, not an official church member”

• “Not attending our group or any where else

• they kept coming for a time but they left and I feel that they are disgruntled “unsubmitted church hoppers”

• “Not accountable to any spiritual authority 

• “Independent—(and we don’t like it” as they do know KNOW this historical First Church basic authority)

NOTE: This is not how submission is defined in the New Testament.

This is True biblical submission:

• Is mutual (Ephesians 5:21 – “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.”)

• Is voluntary, not coerced (James 4:7 – “Submit yourselves to God…”)

• Is relational, never from afar or without context

• Is not based on gender, marital status, or church attendance

So, the claim of “unsubmitted” made without relationship, without inquiry, and without scriptural process is spiritually reckless.

Q. What Is the Biblical Process for Concern?

Let’s train on this clearly:

 1. Matthew 18:15 (Private, Respectful Approach)

“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.”

++ Key: Personal issue, private conversation, direct relationship. Not hearsay. Not observation. Not premonition.

 2. Galatians 6:1 (Gentle Restoration, Not Accusation)

“Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.”

IGNORANCE TRAINING POINT

Key: Gentle, Spirit-led, not  out in the view of public lout, calling-out or top-down scolding. (note this is a big sign of the top down authoritarian and witch watching voyeur many subcultures)

Q. What If YOU, I Get Accused By There When There  Is “No Relationship”?

Ask:

• Are they in relationship with you? (No)

• Are they married to you? (No)

• Are they your family or part of your ministry board? (No)

• Are they in your doctrinal covering or apostolic network? (No)

• Have you met privately, or do they even know you personally? (No)

POINT:  Then they have no biblical right to:

• Judge your “submission level”

• Diagnose you spiritually

• Speak authoritatively into your life

• Label you as rebellious, Jezebel, uncovered, etc.

That is Levitical Patriarchal intrusion, not Jesus-style leadership.

Teaching Point:  What Jesus and Paul Modeled

• Jesus never accused people from a distance. He went to them directly or allowed them to come freely.

• Paul rebuked open sin in a church he oversaw (1 Cor 5), not strangers walking alone in the community.

• Leaders in the First Church served by example, not by remote control (1 Peter 5:2–3).

Teach & Train Good Prophetic Manners:

Respect-Based Leadership Questions

If you’re a minister and see someone you don’t know walking alone, before judging, ask:

1. Do I know their story?

2. Have I built trust with them?

3. Have I prayed for them, or only gossiped about them?

4. Have I followed Matthew 18:15 or Galatians 6:1?

5. Am I functioning like Jesus—or like a religious spy?

POINT: Respect-based ministry begins with restraint, not suspicion.

 Personal Reflection

“I have had this accusing me from afar for years—but only when I dealt with Levitical patriarchy (WELP), who are my same white color, but in a different, appearing to be “accustomed” hierarchal form…but in the community.”

This is important and painful. It implies:

• By See based upon Location and Sight “common familiarity” is being weaponized

• False familial ownership (“you should submit to us because you look like us”)

• Generational assumptions about “a woman’s place” or “lone wolves”

This is not Kingdom behavior. It is cultural control, disguised as spiritual concern. 

“Peaceful fruit of he Kingdom of God’s LIGHT…. or DARKNESS”

ADHERE TO: I John 1:7 to the many of these “IF we walk in the light, as He is the light, THEN we have fellowship with another and blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin.”

 Conclusion: Let’s Lead Like Jesus

• No assumptions without relationship

• No accusations without inquiry

• No spiritual labels without a Matthew 18:15 appointment

• No patriarchy under the New Covenant

• Jesus leads by the Spirit, not suspicion. So must His leaders.