WE ASSESS THE CESSATIONISTS: MINISTRY PATRIARCHY MINUS BOOK OF ACTS TONGUES

Following this article: 

The History of the Christian Patriarchy, Leader Orthodoxy, Anti Women Leader Suppression May 9, 2025 www.ministryaiandi.com

Followed by Patriarchal Overreach: When Authority Exceeds Christ’s Example

50 years of USA  Body Surfing Christian Subculture Joys and Trials:

“I’d rather meet a cessationist in a hallway than a divining, occult mind reading, deep subterfuge (avoid normal relationships) joyless crying  charismatic any day!'(for THESE LP tongue talking ministry styles..only  stare,then evil deep scan me up and down,refuse to speak,  then skulk away to put me on their  “Known Witch List.” (Note: They’re on MY “Known WELP List”)

 

SAY HA and  A NICE BAH HUMBUG

(If you haven’t guessed it: this is WHY I TEACH)

Sound Sister T

WE ASSESS THE CESSATIONISTS
Ministry Patriarchy Minus Book of Acts Tongues
We are PRO the Articulate Ministry Humans: Simply evaluating

The Extreme PUBLIC METHODOLOGY, Respect, Tone*
* where no shoe fits, then just ignore this

(I suppose that as I was raised very valued and respected… as a person, who happened also be a girl  that is makes my teaching hackles rise when I see the ministries disrespect, devalue, use and target, try to own, control,take advantage of, also defile and abuse God’s Girls, Young and Mature Women)

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Long life Intro:

In this specific perspective article Taveau asks ChatGPT AI about the very vocal (You Tube) many “cessationists.” I have nothing against any of the big Cessationists. I respect them and value them for their mature character, their  honor, their bravery and also give the same unbiased freedom and God’s gift of grace which has similarly be given to me by the the Lord and the Bible (Paul Philippians 2:12 ) “to work out their own salvation” as I have been doing.

I give them my blessing to  to have their own opinion, as I have mine.

My Brief Bio: I grew up loved, felt valued also safe, kindly treated also respected. And I grew in a mixed household: I grew with a parent who was cessationist,(will write more another time)  however, he was calm and accepting of all of us after we met the Holy Spirit during the 1980s. However my special Dad was kind, did not accuse, bias diatribe ,nor withstand/put down nor Bible thump nor word curse (lambast,revile, nor make fun of) ANY of US or ANY  OTHER sect or person. So we a peaceful “think for yourself, hear from God, know the Bible for YOURSELF” type medium income family (prayer warrior) servant leader styled “ministry ” group.

Also my dear late father who in way a Deep South misogynist, neither was he patriarchal. Yet he was a South Baptist ordained senior pastor. Yet he more Biblical than presiding Baptist. However he did belong to their organization, but it loose, more like Rev. Billy Graham, yet lower key. So  he and his dear wife, my playful teacher mother, dwelled in life long Happy Camper and abiding Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” And I grew up having never once heard  any form of ” accusation, word cursing ,bias, gossip” EVER….growing in my extended “Southern white societal family” (who were all servant leader mature Christians)

I repeat in my deep inside “love tank” “the emotional memories” deep hard drive, as a growing child, I can look back and marvel ..for it was by grace that I can now reflect and notice how I  never heard ANY Family (even extended pious family member) once accusing persons by “race, gender, type, strata, education, beliefs, particular faith, beliefs, looks, politics” and deeply insist up on this NOW.

For I owe them… and God…for that…but this movement specially comes up from that; The EORR Cross Body Move which is a Galatians 1:1-2 Pauline “sent” messenger form which is also Acts 17:17 (also Paul) and is “mutually submitted in the fear of the Lord’ in Ephesians 5:21 “to all.”

Also, this She is a pragmatist, practical logical nice person, who keeps one eye open (for her own sake, plus for the sake of ministry body of Christ) to see if she is respecting the person or not. And has one foot one the ground at all times to quality “is this is true, safe, valid and applicable Bible teaching/true doctrine …which is evaluated by the “pure” “true” Fruit and “character” and following that… am I SENT to that ministry or group or could be one person or NOT. She’s a Luke 1:17 type person.

Also, I’ve never had any trouble or ministry issues with any cessationist. My Southern Baptist father was one. However, he was a mild one, and after the Holy Spirit moved upon me, then my mother, sister, aunt, and family, he chose not to embrace the “infilling” or “baptism of the Holy Spirit” with the evidence of a prayer language. He wasn’t angry or upset, he just came from a background where, at the Louisville, KY Baptist Seminary, it was taught that tongues and miracles had ceased.

A Testimony; Even when my mother developed lumps in her uterus and was scheduled for surgery, but had faith for healing, she went along with my sister to a Catholic Charismatic healing and prayer group (Living Waters) in Norfolk, VA (mid-1970s). She was healed, with X-rays before and after to prove it. My father rejoiced in the amazing fact, yet some how did not wish to pursue any deeper walk with the Holy Spirit.. We honored his choice and he honored ours (very quietly in Ephesians 5:21 Family Style).

But by glad Father,  was the most unsung, loving servant of the Great I Am, he  lives forever in my mind, emotions and heart. My   forever remember him as a quiet, efficient, patient, non complaining  demonstration of the faithful, calm, loving Christ..in ministry. For my father, M. Kimball Johnson, Jr. born in Dallas GA (was a postage stamp size) become ironicallysignificant, even more so during the 15 solid years in Dallas “Make ME Famous”unkind Texas.

And I dearly honor the “no name,” faithful one woman husband,teacher, Bible nerd and happy joyful life long camper..My Blessed Earthly Father “Daddy”..And he is the “”Future Church” hero role model I aspire to follow as a non murmuring senior pastor, and he showed me how ministry can allow each person to hear from God about their own “Acts” experience.

I am for the gifts of the Spirit, but I would never make it dogmatic. It is too personal. Therefore, I can appreciate those who move in the gifts, as well as those who don’t feel comfortable with them.

About Women in Ministry:

My father was not a pauper legalist, nor a controller Also I never once saw any signs of Western European Levitical Patriarchism or “misogynistic bias, control, or authoritarianism.” He was not a Christian “submissionist” either. Instead, he and my mother, who was a gifted Bible teacher, lived in complete simplicity, joy, and harmony, with a happy, warm humor. They embraced Apostle Paul’s teaching on mutual submission in the fear of the Lord (Ephesians 5:21), which is how I view marriage, ministry, and community. There was never any problem with men—I respect faithful Christian men. I trust them mostly. It’s only with biased, rigid, false doctrine that resembles witchcraft that I feel the calling to reprove and to correct, for the sake of the Ministry Body.

Dr Taveau asks ChatGPT

What Is a Cessationist?

ChatGPT replies

A cessationist is a Christian who believes that the miraculous spiritual gifts—such as speaking in tongues, prophecy, healing, and miracles—ceased (stopped) after the apostolic age (i.e., after the first apostles like Peter and Paul died and the New Testament was completed).

* Cessationism: The Core Belief

The supernatural “sign gifts” were only for the early church to confirm the gospel and establish the church. Once the Bible was complete, they believe, those gifts were no longer needed.

Point: Cessationists usually believe:

• The canon of Scripture is closed

• The gifts were temporary and for a specific time

• Any modern “signs and wonders” are likely psychological, fake, or demonic

ASIDE:

Sister Taveau asks: What about Jesus openly rebuking the  many suspicious (anti supernatural resurrection)  Sadducees Matthew 22:29 “You err, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God?”

 Point: Gifts Cessationists Believe Have Ended:

• Speaking in tongues

• Prophecy (as a direct word from God)

• Miraculous healings

• Signs and wonders (e.g., raising the dead, casting out demons dramatically)

 

 

TD SPEAKS: “It’s the Modern Days, End of Times, The crowds are mostly over educated and filled with venom to contradict and prove anyone wrong even Christ himself(bumped into one video about Billy Graham being false). So let’s “behave. ” We no longer need to, want to Bible thump. This crowd has turned us al off and wants to see “Real” “not Reactionary” genuine as in bit of Normal in the Supernatural, I submit “far more public, private “Relationship” respect not formula OR MONEY…

Please, out on the front lines, EACH and EVERY CHRISTIAN MUST NOW Show and at least a modicum of respect, and not try to Big Boss and present themself as “ONLY THEY KNOW about Jesus.” I suggest humility based upon Paul 2 Timothy 2:24-26. And many are Fed Up, Used it and waxing very sarcastic, And are TOUGH, MEDIA BIASED and Turned OFF…So right now, hear on out…be mature, relax only do what the Father Says to DO and SAY (John 5 Christ method) and also PRAY as right now… only the Genuine God can show them…and WE (you and I) are NOT supposed to be God..

God will intervene. So please trust them,(to a point) and sow Jesus RESPECT into them..even if that is ALL that happens. HE will multiply that Back..Again:  respect them each..and  ” LET them have the SPACE and ROOM  to perceive, think and evaluate while YOU and I PRAY for each special One.to hear about it from God and   make the final decision, as to many stones have then thrown. And there are “many voices in the world, and each one has significance, teaches Paul ( I Corinthians 14:10 ) So submit whatever as a respectful, abiding James 3:17 “Selah” and lob that big Tennis Ball of YOUR opinion, into their court. THEN let them ruminate, and perceive and think on it , then DECIDE. Trust the Lord and their ability to make those, like all of us in Philippians 2:12 “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” St Apostle Paul

 

Taveau asks
Please describe Cessationist movement origins

+ The Cessationist Movement: Origins

• Rose after the Reformation (1500s), especially with John Calvin and early Protestant reformers

• Grew strong during the Enlightenment era, when rationalism and skepticism influenced theology

• Popular in:

  • Reformed churches (Presbyterian, some Baptist)

  • Bible churches

  • Some fundamentalist or evangelical traditions

++ Common Cessationist Arguments:

TD Shares The Theological Fancy Terms:

The Opposite of Cessationism = Continuationism

• Belief that all gifts of the Spirit continue today and are available to all believers.

• Held by Pentecostals, Charismatics, and many non-denominational churches.

++Let’s Compare:  Cessationism vs. Continuationism

 
What Might Christ Say to Both of These Ministry Groups?

TD asks Chat GPT: 

How might Jesus, apostle Paul minister to both the Cessationist and the Christian leaders who move, know the Book of Acts, Holy Spirit baptism, move in the Gifts

Chat GPT responds:

Jesus and Apostle Paul would likely approach both Cessationist Christians and those who embrace the gifts of the Spirit with grace, truth, and relationship-based correction—not polarization.

Here’s a thoughtful biblical synthesis of how they might minister to both groups:

POINT:
JESUS: Full of Grace and Truth (John 1:14)

Jesus would likely begin not with public correction, but with relationship, conversation, and questions, just as He did with:

• The Pharisees (Luke 11:37–52),

• The woman at the well (John 4),

• Nicodemus (John 3),

• And His own disciples (Matthew 16:13–17).

++ To Cessationists:

Jesus might affirm:

“You love the Scriptures. You long for purity in My Church. You are zealous for truth—this is commendable.”

But He would challenge:

“Do you call out in love—or for control? Have you listened before you judged? Would you invite a Spirit-filled believer to break bread and discuss what I am doing in My Church?”

And He might gently correct with:

“You search the Scriptures because you think in them you have eternal life, but these speak of Me” (John 5:39–40).
“Quench not the Spirit” (1 Thess. 5:19).

++ To Charismatics/Spirit-Filled Leaders:

Jesus might affirm:

“You walk in faith, believe for the impossible, and embrace My Spirit’s power. You are bold in proclaiming Me. I gave you these gifts.”

But He would also challenge:

“Have you let signs overshadow humility? Do you love your critics—or merely react? Are your ministries accountable and free from personal empire-building?”

And He might warn:

“Many will say, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy?’… and I will say, ‘Depart from Me’ if you lacked intimacy” (Matt. 7:21–23).

++ PAUL: The Apostle of Tension and Balance

Paul himself straddled both worlds: academic theology and supernatural experience.

• He defended the gifts: “Do not forbid speaking in tongues” (1 Cor. 14:39).

• He also corrected their misuse: “Let all things be done decently and in order” (1 Cor. 14:40).

• And he reminded them: “If I speak in tongues but lack love, I am nothing” (1 Cor. 13:1–2).

++ To Cessationists:

Paul might say:

“You are zealous for doctrine—good. But beware becoming puffed up in knowledge without love” (1 Cor. 8:1).

He’d urge:

“Do not despise prophecy. Test all things. Hold fast to what is good” (1 Thess. 5:20–21).
“Earnestly desire the greater gifts… especially that you may prophesy” (1 Cor. 14:1).

And:

“You may disagree—but in all things, pursue peace and edification” (Rom. 14:19).

++ To Charismatics:

Paul would affirm:

“You move in the Spirit—I did too. I speak in tongues more than you all” (1 Cor. 14:18).

But also:

“Let two or three prophesy, and the others judge” (1 Cor. 14:29).
“If an unbeliever comes in, let him be able to say ‘God is surely among you’—not feel chaos” (1 Cor. 14:23–25).
TD ADDS
Showing Christ love, via his EORR respecting genuine love,  is more important that gifting, talent; prophetic accuracy, persona, turf and other people watching; Bible wells of knowledge (Ephesians 3:19) “To know the love of God which passes knowledge and be filled with the fullness of Gods’

And Paul would call for doctrinal maturity, not just signs and wonders:

“Do not be children in your thinking… but in your thinking be mature” (1 Cor. 14:20).

 

++ MAIN POINT
The Goal: ONE Body, Many Gifts

Both Jesus and Paul would point both groups back to unity:

“There are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are varieties of ministries, but the same Lord… But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.”
—1 Corinthians 12:4–7

 Summary

THE BONE TO PICK

A Call for Mature Biblical Confrontation — Not Public Accusation

A Preface of Honor and Respect

I want to begin by clearly stating: I have no personal quarrel or resentment toward the male Cessationist brethren. From what I’ve observed, they appear to live deeply consecrated lives—honoring their families, loving their spouses well, and earnestly desiring to keep the name of Jesus Christ pure. I truly respect their sincerity, their call, and their ministerial bravery. And I affirm their right to reprove and believe as they are led.

As a fellow Christ follower, I too abide in Ephesians 5:21—“submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God”—and in the apostolic call to mutual respect and joy in Philippians. I live at peace with many men,(also many leader women) who are Christian and non-Christian, albeit those who speak in tongues and those who do not—and I have never once had a conflict. Let this be proof enough that I come not to fight but to offer a mature, biblical dialogue for the greater unity and respect of the Body of Christ.

I speak here  out of holy concern. The only reason I call out certain streams within modern Cessationist media ministries is this: they publicly confront individuals—often by name, video, and edited clips—without ever having walked in actual relationship or biblical protocol with them. This violates the very heart of Jesus’ commands regarding reproof, confrontation, and restoration

 To the Cessassionist, many  WELP,  NAR + Ole Boy Shepherding, Elite White Christian Levitical Patriarchy:

“I am not ‘over you” nor “under you” this is a SENT Galatians 1:1-2 Acts 17:17, who is “mutually submitted to all” in Pauline Ephesians 5:21. And FYI, I can get along an respect you each as fine persons. That is not my role to disrespect. Yet,  I am not SENT to “your member” as that is not the pure Christ.”Yet I can befriend, share,  assist, give ideas, give  a word from the Lord, also divine appointment Theology Discuss, also collaborate and be a Christian ministry leade diverse, EORR sound resource.” Sister T

Since the coming of YouTube, the Society Fast Buck, Many Giant Genres “Presenting them selves, the methods, elite styles and self promoting doctrine, as “The Righteous Way”

There is a rising trend among some cessationists (and non-cessationists) content creators who appear to invest significant time, skill, and financial resources into producing highly edited videos that name, target, expose, and accuse other Christian ministers—often focusing on famous TV or Charismatic preachers. While they may present themselves as defenders of truth, and their media may seem polished and well-funded, excellence in production does not equal Christlike fruit (Matthew 7:16).

What Does the Bible Say?

1. Ephesians 4:15 (KJV) – “But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:”

   Truth must be spoken in love, not from a spirit of superiority, vengeance, or pride.

2. Galatians 6:1 (KJV) – “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness…”

   Public shaming is not restoration. Restoration involves meekness and usually private correction first (Matthew 18:15).

3. James 3:17 (KJV) – “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle… full of mercy…”

   Wisdom from heaven is not harsh, mocking, or condemning. It is gentle and peaceable.

4. Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV) lists things God hates—including “he that soweth discord among brethren.”

   These public rebukes often create division and sow discord in the body of Christ.

5. 1 Corinthians 4:5 (KJV) – “Judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come… and then shall every man have praise of God.”

   There is a final Judge—and He sees not only the actions, but the motives of the heart.

Realistic Thought

“Contending for the Faith” OR “Grieving the Holy Spirit?”

(PS May 5 “Ministry AI and I ‘article Ministry Gossip”)

Yes, we need discernment, and no, not all teaching is sound—but the way we address error must reflect the heart of Christ. Paul named names rarely, and only after all efforts at reconciliation had failed, and always for the good of the larger church (see 1 Timothy 1:20).

Creating platforms for constant exposure, monetizing “discernment content,” and turning fellow Christians into viral clickbait may win followers—but it may also grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30-32).

Assessing the Spirit Behind Public Accusation Culture

In General, Usually By THIS Same Sort Of Crowd

There’s a visible trend where certain ministries repeatedly shame, revile, lambast, and word-curse others—often under the guise of “contending for the faith.” But a close look shows that many are not exposing obvious moral failure or heresy. Instead, they accuse others of

1. The “Sin” of Being a “Prosperity” Teacher

TD adds: this yeast of certain Phariseeism is modeled, copied and is a GIANT BOOMING well funded and opportunist, Famous Famous Accusing, vast genre!

Even if the accused is simply well-dressed, has a big building, or mentions abundance, they are mocked.

+ Biblical truth:
Prosperity itself is not a sin—greed is. The Bible contains both warnings against riches (1 Tim. 6:10) and promises of blessing (Deut. 8:18, 3 John 1:2).

++ Problem: Many are targeted for optics—if they look successful, they’re accused—even without fruit inspection or real relationship (Matthew 7:20).

2. The “Sin” of Moving in the Holy Spirit (Tongues, Healing, Prophecy, etc.)

Names like Benny Hinn, Kathryn Kuhlman, and others are frequently slandered.

Biblical truth:
Paul wrote plainly: “Forbid not to speak with tongues” (1 Corinthians 14:39 KJV). The gifts of the Spirit did not cease in the Bible (1 Corinthians 12–14), and nowhere does Jesus forbid them.

++ Problem: These critics seem to reject entire portions of the New Testament—especially Acts and 1 Corinthians. That is dangerously close to “preaching another gospel” (Galatians 1:6–9), one that subtracts rather than adds.

TD Adds:

Anti Book of Acts and Possibly “Blaspheming the Holy Spirit”
Q. How many are we telling that it’s “The unpardonable sin!”

I even penned a Ministry AI and I about “What is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit” due to the many Cessationists openly reviling mature Pastor Benny Hinn (I realize him from way when he started in national ministry, and I regard him as a giant pioneer, a human real person, yet I do not follow him, nor condone or accuse him, and I do not disagree with the big moves of the Holy Spirit, yet I do prefer the celebrity realm

The point being that when this group (meaning Cessationists, true wannabe) self styled group spends energy, money and much effort to dig out ancient video of him moving in the gifts, people falling out under the power and more, speaking in tongues included..THEY REVILE HIM, ACCUSE and MOCK HIM as “BEING DEMONIC …I urge DEEP CAUTION about doing that…
“This is very important for all of the Cessationists to ‘understand” and to not DO THAT for their own sake.

RISKING ETERNAL PERISHING

But also for the Sake of modeling THAT to the millions of views, TEENAGERS (who are prone to ridicule, mock make fun of) and the many UNSAVED and weak immature Christians, even ministers, who are CLUELESS about Bible Doctrine TRUTH

DANGERS OF CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES “BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT”

3. The “Sin” of a Woman in Leadership, Speaking in Tongues, or Having a Big Ministry

This often comes with name-calling: “Jezebel,” “witch,” “uncovered,” “out of order.” “rebellious, unsubmitted” ” a controller” “wanting to take the place of a man”

The Contrast of  Biblical truth:

• Acts 2:17 – “Your sons and daughters shall prophesy.”

• Romans 16:1–7 – Paul commended women apostles, deacons, and leaders (Phoebe, Junia, Priscilla).

• Galatians 3:28 – “There is neither male nor female… you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

• Ephesians 5:21 – “Submit to one another in the fear of God.”

+ Problem: Their rebuke often has no relational context, no private Matthew 18 process, and is laced with bias and fear of female authority, not scripture. This is not biblical correction—it’s public scorning.

NOTE: Evaluating:  Is This “Another Gospel”?

Yes, it can be. When a group or teacher:

• Subtracts from the work and power of the Holy Spirit

• Elevates man-made rules (like male-only preachers) above Scripture

• Substitutes biblical meekness with harsh exposure and reviling

• Mocks the fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) as false…

• TD Adds:
• May cause many to “fail. to discern Christ’s Body Correctly (bringing pain,early death)
• May mistakenly blaspheme Holy Spirit (note Binny Hinn example remarks following)

…then it bears the marks of a “different gospel”—one that is legalistic, fearful, self-righteous, and Pharisaical.

 Galatians 1:6–9 (KJV):

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel…”

 2 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV):

“If he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached… ye might well bear with him.”

MY TRAINING  HUMOR:

This Point: Do these legalists, who believe, eat sleep and preach, every “jot and tittle” of the New Testament, which they make into a New Governing Law  (about these women) when the Pharisees did that, not Jesus so it is a new Pharisee  legalism..when Christ preached value for all, along with freedom and an ongoing private (downloaded) relationship with the Christ, inward witness directed by times of frequent prayer in that relationship and knowing the Word of God, getting healthy wise counsel and ministry fellowship.

For this about God’s Guidance by the Holy Spirit of Truth see John 16:13 KJV:

“When the spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth, he won’t talk about himself, he will talk about things to come”

However, Jesus Christ was NOT controlling, also NOT a Levitical Patriarch Pharisee, nor is he recording any portion of the Bible as demanding, abusing with His authority, shouting out at sinners or  barking ministry accusations, No, Christ Jesus did not. For He was not a Pharisee nor a LP Patriarch, but a mild, servant leader.

Here is the Lesson in a humorous teaching and comparison Verse
(PS I penned an article which will post here (the link) when I can
So in light these Sober Virtuous Cessationists, being known to be very undemonstrative, sober, stock and strict (not that that is all bad) Yet another Myers Briggs Personality Test type of trait, (which isnot   myself), These being AGAINST all “JOY, MOVEMENT, CELEBRATION, AT TIMES HILARITY and Opposing all pentecostal kinds. (see them as ANTI the smiling Charismatic, speaking in tongues, big worship, dancing,: Plus the many CESSATIONISTS also the ANTI WOMEN MOVEMENTS (meaning  high and loud about “THE WOMEN BEING SILENT in church”..

Well, I  would to find out if THESE “are submitted, in compliance, and “subject to” God’s Bible word in this:

The Scripture is 1 Timothy 2:8 (KJV):

“I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.”

Meaning:

• “Lifting up holy hands” – in their service, when I prayer, as the Spirit moves (which is a symbol of surrender, purity, and worship before God.) and Biblical

• “Without wrath” – (do they harbor any ill will toward other movements, themselves, their mothers, a longtime ago Spirit Baptized human who did them wrong? as in “harboring NO grudges, anymosities No anger, hostility, or bitterness.

• “And doubting” – Are ‘walking by faith not by sight (which is indeed supernatural, invisible, the sign of a person having ” the inner witness” of the Holy Spirit (the John 16:13″ spirit of Truth)..and not walking in fear, doubt and unbelief” “(No wavering faith or inner dispute.)

Final Word

Disagreement is biblical. But word-cursing, shaming, and reviling fellow believers—especially those ministering in Christ’s name—crosses into dangerous spiritual territory.

If someone’s truly in error, James 3:17 gives the only way to approach:

“The wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

Anything else… is not the Spirit of Christ.

MY BIG WORD: MODEL THE TRUE CHRIST

Jesus never reviled back. He wept, He taught, He listened, and He restored.

Our teaching must look like Jesus, feel like Jesus, and treat others like Jesus—especially when we disagree.

PASTOR TD HELPFUL TIP*

* THE METHODOLOGY,  TONE & DEMEANOR..MUST SHOW JESUS “RESPECT” FOR THE HUMAN PEOPLE

Note on Tone: “My Way or the Highway” Preaching

+ Actual behavior:
Many modern cessationist or authoritarian-style ministers please avoid loud, fierce, dogmatic, and mean, bossy tones—often in pulpits or videos. For these convey “God has set US UP over all other senior ministry subcultures, persons and ALL “women” ALL “speaking in tongues’ and it is OUR RIGHT to Bible stomp THEM into submission (seems such!)

++  Biblical Correction Model: Servant Leadership Tone

MAIN POINT
Biblical Protocol for Confrontation (Not Public Shaming)

Scripture clearly outlines how believers are to correct or reprove one another:

• Isaiah 1:18 KJV – “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord…”

• Galatians 6:1 KJV – “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”

• James 3:17 KJV – “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

• Matthew 18:15 KJV – “Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.”

• 1 John 1:7 KJV – “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another…”

These public ministries often bypass all of these. They do not meet face to face. They do not make private appointments. They do not extend relationship before rebuke. They digitally target people they’ve never even known—especially women in leadership who are filled with the Spirit—and this creates spiritual harm, division, suspicion, and character assassination across the Body of Christ

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 MAIN POINT: THE SILENT WOMEN EXTREME DIATRIBES

(SOCIAL MEDIA…YOU TUBE, AREA PULPITS)

On Patriarchy and Misapplied Paul: A Deeper Look at 1 Timothy 2:12 and “Silent Women”

Much of the targeting against women leaders stems from a misreading of Paul’s instruction in 1 Timothy 2:12:

“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”

What many don’t realize is that this was not a universal gag order on women for all time—it was a specific directive to address doctrinal chaos in Ephesus, where the cult of Artemis/Diana, led by dominant priestesses, had seeped into the early church. Women in that culture were overstepping, sometimes teaching Gnostic heresies.

Paul’s use of the Greek word for “authority” here (authentein) implies a domineering, forceful usurpation—not healthy leadership.

This lines up with Paul’s other teachings where he affirmed women in ministry:

• Romans 16:1–7 – Commends Phoebe (a deacon), Priscilla (a teacher of Apollos), and Junia (an apostle).

• Acts 2:17 – Peter quotes Joel: “Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy…”

• Galatians 3:28 – “There is neither Jew nor Greek… male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

Paul’s overarching theme, especially in 1 Corinthians 14, was order and clarity in public gatherings, not gender-based gag rules. In fact, Paul instructed women how to prophesy—which clearly involved public speech (1 Corinthians 11:5). The call for “silence” in 1 Corinthians 14:34 is tied to unruly questioning and judging of prophecy, not a ban on ministry.

It’s the TONE, THE SLIPPERY TONGUE and the LACK OF MERCY AND COMPASSION, THE KNOWLEDGE OF BIBLE “ETERNAL” HUMAN COMPASSIONATE” PERSPECTIVE.

A MAJOR POINT
What the Critics Miss About Ephesians 5:21: Mutual Submission

Cessationist critics who go after married Christian women in ministry (example: (I do not know these faith filled famous women..neither do I  follow or endorse, or support or deeply know their deep theology, yet they are “human” persons)Also, they are quite well known and openly publicly called out and targeted(repeatedly on many monetized accusing reviling anti THEM video) :Joyce Meyer, Paula White, Beth Moore, and others) So on behalf them but all leader women in local and national I will address.

DEVALUING POINT: They often violate biblical mutuality in marriage by assuming that all women must submit to all men. But the biblical order is specific:

• Ephesians 5:21 KJV – “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”

• Ephesians 5:22 KJV – “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.”

Nowhere does it say that women must submit to every male preacher or critic on YouTube. Submission is within a covenant of mutual trust and holy love—not a hierarchy of spiritual control over all women, especially not publicly, and especially not strangers.

This idea that a woman in ministry is automatically “rebellious” is based not on Scripture, but on a Western-European Levitical patriarchal tradition. That system’s fear of female leadership is more cultural than biblical, and when mixed with online outrage culture, it becomes something toxic and un-Christlike.

TD VALID POINTS

In logic,knowing authority in the Bible and marriage. One must use information about each single or married person, male, female, any other. This is the heart of Christ in compassion for the temporal human who is made in His image and is mostly likely  already, prior to meeting, you, me, is greatly accused, wounded and/or suffering. So we want to inner acknowledge their possible trial, and their “unique” Backstory (which you and I have).

Bluntly speaking: none of these are “objects” or “things” or “non famous every day “its” or “just another number, another standard Christian or white person, African heritage person or Hispanic, Asian or youth, etc. THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP ISSUE NOW, many people in ministry are tired, and worn and have “seen it all” “done it all” and assume that they “KNOW IT ALL” and soon it all will over when JESUS COMES

But it not about THIS RIGHT NOW. It is sadly the long Bible prophesied “Last days” 1. NO HUMAN EMPATHY 2. NO SORROW that some will not make it to Heaven for Eternity! Instead it’s the 

 Furthermore ..it’s the local area, grass roots LOVE which has grown cold, the  Dysfunction will rise (see 2 Timothy 3:1-8, I Timothy 6:5) and now many are hardened, use formulas, word curse and spy on from their hidey holes..REASON the many are now “the play it safe” keep authority control…the in bred ” lovers of them own selves. Deep seeded Ego Compassion Fatigued. “lost first love”

MAIN POINT
Final Thought: Disagree? Fine. But Follow Christ’s Confrontation Model.

It is possible to disagree over gifts of the Spirit. It is possible to debate doctrine. But the Biblical way is relational, respectful, and private—never digital character assassination.

So I say this to fellow ministers—especially Cessationist brethren with platforms:

* If you truly believe someone is in error, reach out.
* Speak with humility.
* Don’t dishonor the sacredness of another person’s marriage, calling, or office.
* And please, do not treat a Spirit-filled Christian woman as an open season target simply because her voice is heard.

Discerning:
Issue: Angry, Fierce, Authoritarian Tone (Even If Not Verbally Quoted)

FOR THE CHRISTIAN BODY

My Own Policy: EORR (Equal Opportunity Real Respect for the Office of Every Human Made in God’s Image) Cross Body Unity

(mostly for the ‘wonder working parts of Christ’s pure body)

We move in the Spirit, but calmly, and it is an option, as I never pressure. Also, when fellow Christian men or people in ministry do not believe in a Christian woman pastor, minister, teacher, prophet, or apostle, that is OK. Just don’t shout me down on your video or in public, or spread rumors about this Sent Messenger Person unless you’ve walked the walk of mature office, humble, meek respect. (By this I mean: No debating, lecturing, guessing, accusing, spying, but instead, call to make an appointment, then one-to-one, privately, respectfully—abiding by James 3:17 and following Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15, 1 John 1:7. And if you think this is a weak “Jezebel,” then get off of your sofa and Revelation 2:20 confront me). I also regard Isaiah 1:18 in this matter.

Bible Verses:

James 3:17 (KJV)
“But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

Galatians 6:1 (KJV)
“Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”

Matthew 18:15 (KJV)
“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.”

1 John 1:7 (KJV)
“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

Revelation 2:20 (KJV)
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.”

Isaiah 1:18 (KJV)
“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”

This policy stands on principles of mutual respect, unity in the body of Christ, and following biblical principles for resolving conflict. It emphasizes humility, gentleness, and direct, private dialogue instead of public accusations or rumors.

Still working on this…

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