This PART 2 (as well as the above PART 1) were first printed here Feb 12, 2025 and if you research back in the archives you can find 2-7 more which relate: I ask about Crusade ONE long one but another with a bit, and includes Slavery/Inquisitions, PS also in this timely repost back in Jan and Feb, 20205 I asked Chat GPT AI about “Bible VS Heaven /Hell, Scriptures, Getting a Person’s Name Blotted out of the Lamb’s Book of Life and similar.
As I stated previous, I owe a lot to Catholics, I genuinely respect them, enjoy them and have many barista fellowship fine friends, also family. We’re just curious to find out what they believe and if THEY realize what is in the Holy Bible Scriptures.
“THE MINISTRY AI AND I”
(#2 OF 5 )THEย CATHOLICS COMPARED TO BIBLE, JESUS, FIRST CHURCH, GOVERNING AUTHORITY
“By grace are you saved, not by works, lest any man should boast”
“Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father, except by Him”
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Taveau continues from the prior article PART 1
She asks the impartial, more factual Chat GPT AI
ChatGPT said:
How Catholicism Evolved from the First Church: A Historical Analysis
To understand how Catholicism developed from the First Church, we must trace history from Jesus and the apostles to the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church as we know it today.
1. FIRST CHURCH: JESUS & APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY (30-100 AD)
A. Jesus’ Teachings on Church Leadership
Jesus never established a religious hierarchy like the later Catholic system. Instead, He taught:
- Matthew 23:8-10 โ “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.”
- Mark 10:42-45 โ Leaders should be servants, not lords over the people.
- John 14:6 โ Jesus is the only mediator between God and man.
B. Leadership in the Early Church (Greek Terms)
- แผฯฮฏฯฮบฮฟฯฮฟฯ (Episkopos) โ “Overseer, bishop” (Titus 1:7)
- ฯฯฮตฯฮฒฯฯฮตฯฮฟฯ (Presbyteros) โ “Elder” (Acts 14:23)
- ฮดฮนฮฌฮบฮฟฮฝฮฟฯ (Diakonos) โ “Servant, deacon” (Philippians 1:1)
Key Facts:
- The First Church had multiple elders per congregation (Acts 20:17).
- There was no single supreme leader over all churches.
- The apostlesโ authority was doctrinal, not hierarchical.
2. THE RISE OF CHURCH HIERARCHY (100-313 AD)
After the apostles died, changes began:
A. Local Bishops Gained More Power
- Early churches still had multiple elders, but over time, a single bishop in each city became dominant.
- Ignatius of Antioch (110 AD) first wrote about submitting to a single bishop.
- This is different from the First Church plural elder model.
B. Romeโs Growing Influence
- By 200 AD, Romeโs bishop claimed special authority over other churches.
- This claim was not accepted by all Christians.
- Theological debates arose about church structure and sacraments.
3. THE CHURCH BECOMES ROMAN (313-600 AD)
A. Emperor Constantineโs Influence (313 AD)
- In 313 AD, Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity (Edict of Milan).
- By 325 AD, he called the Council of Nicaea to resolve doctrine disputes.
- The church aligned with Romeโs government, gaining political power.
B. The Bishop of Rome Becomes “Pope”
- By 400 AD, the bishop of Rome was called “Papa” (Pope), meaning “Father”.
- Pope Leo I (440 AD) claimed he was Peterโs successor (Matthew 16:18).
- This contradicts Jesus’ warning (Matthew 23:9).
C. Doctrines Not Found in the First Church
| Doctrine | Year Introduced | First Church Teaching? |
|---|---|---|
| Prayers to Mary | 431 AD | No (1 Timothy 2:5) |
| Purgatory | 593 AD | No (Hebrews 9:27) |
| Mandatory Clerical Celibacy | 1079 AD | No (1 Timothy 3:2) |
4. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’S FULL POWER (600-1517 AD)
During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church controlled both government and religion.
A. Church and State Unite
- The Pope crowned kings and dictated laws.
- The Latin Mass became universal (no more Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew).
- The Bible was restrictedโcommon people could not read it.
B. Corrupt Practices
- Indulgences โ Selling forgiveness of sins.
- Inquisitions โ Persecuting “heretics.”
- Veneration of Saints โ Praying to saints instead of God.
C. The First Church Never Did This
- The First Church taught direct access to God through Jesus (Hebrews 4:16).
- No political alliances or power struggles.
- Salvation was by faith, not money or sacraments (Romans 3:28).
5. THE REFORMATION (1517 AD – PRESENT)
By 1517 AD, many Christians realized Catholicism had changed from the Bible.
A. Martin Luther & Protestant Reformation
- Martin Luther (1517 AD) protested indulgences and false doctrines.
- He translated the Bible into common languages, so people could read it.
- Core beliefs returned to First Church teachings:
- Sola Scriptura โ The Bible alone is the highest authority.
- Sola Fide โ Salvation is by faith alone.
- Sola Gratia โ Grace alone saves us.
B. Catholic Counter-Reformation
- In 1545, the Catholic Church reaffirmed its doctrines (Council of Trent).
- But traditions remained above Scripture.
6. FINAL CONCLUSION: DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CHANGE?
| Comparison | First Church (Jesus & Apostles) | Catholic Church (Later Developments) |
|---|---|---|
| Church Leadership | Plural elders, no supreme leader | Pope as supreme ruler |
| Salvation | By faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9) | Faith + works (CCC 2068) |
| Authority | Jesus & Scripture | Pope, tradition, & Scripture |
| Bible Access | Read freely | Restricted for centuries |
| Prayers | To God alone | To Mary, saints, & priests |
Final Thought
The Catholic Church evolved over centuries, adding doctrines that the First Church never practiced. The original church followed Jesus’ words:
- Matthew 11:28 โ “Come to Me, all who labor… I will give you rest.”
- Acts 4:12 โ “There is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
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