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ADDRESSING MODERN MINISTRY
CONFUSION **
**They surely each know about “Being Blessed” but how about these?
Be Ye Not Bible Knowledge Clueless
“You err, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God”ย
Matthew 22:29 Christ to the unbelieving Sadduccees
Is there a Curse forย “Failing to Discern the Body of Christ correctly?
By Mistake are MANY risking “Blaspheming the Holy Spirit” (tell the savvy modern youth !)
PSย “It’s NOT that we each “must” fully agree
NO… It is HOW we DO it!”
Sr apostle, founder, EORR Cross Body Unity, Sister Taveau D’Arcy’
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Taveau Addresses the Cross Cultural Future Church
I have a long history of studying these movements, tracing them back to their early daysโbefore media sensationalism, before they became widely commercialized, and before the rise of celebrity-driven ministry. Many of these pioneering movements began with genuine value, but over time, they have been influenced, diluted, and in some cases, overtaken by worldly elements.
I do not hurl invectives, nor do I engage in accusatory rhetoric, but I do issue caution. I have witnessed a mixtureโa combination of authentic faith, confused doctrine, misplaced celebrity followings, and at times, both good and questionable fruit.
It is crucial to calm the avarice, the reckless accusations of the demonic, and the divisiveness that currently characterizes much of the discussion surrounding these movements. Instead of feeding into reactionary extremes, this should be framed as a cause for careful biblical evaluation within the ministry nation of miracle-working, yet mammon-centric, America.
In-Depth Response & Biblical Analysis
And, my concern is both “cross body unity” Book of Ephesians 4 , Also ‘Cross Generational” with “no Big’ I’s or Little You’s. I want JESUS to the MAIN THING..yet there have be certain asides, which I am highly aware of suchย :organization ministry flow, Bible style, personalities and more (include special niche fields like”worship” “Book of Acts, hearing from the Lord, various forms and like and more)
Asย I am a deep Bible and ministry subculture apostolic scholar, BUT I don’t HAVE to have a ‘Title” …but I will, for it is “needed” when, as they are SO BOSSY and very MEAN,
What I advocate is right, Biblically sound, First Church, and all races, and “let everyone submit to Paul to Philippians 2:12 “each work out their own salvation” all of which is traditional historically relevant and spiritually significant.
Also, everything that I put forth is submitted as “pause and consider “Selah, not hard core autocratic, shouting dogma. (However, that IS THERE so I teach very “pointedly” but with caution, compassion and true “respect.”
ย All of this is said,ย after close to 50 years of watching, participating, mostly enjoying, the evolution of many various forms of Christian diverse ministry, flows and movementsโfrom the start of that was Media Age Effected 1970’s onward, the LP and NOT WELP pioneering faith-based efforts to mixtures of purity, commercialism, and confusionโis something that requires both wisdom and biblical discernment.
And this isย not just about theology;ย it is aboutย “RELATIONSHIPS” ..first with KNOWING GOD and next with each knowing WHO THEY ARE and WHO THEY ARE NOT (PS this includes myself).
Following that, it is about “THIS CHRIST FOLLOWING Big Thinking Generation “NOW” and How They each COMPORT THEMSELVES, both on and off the public view.
With that stated, we must examine many issues, each of which is “influential.”
America Going to Church
A Failure To Discern Each Other
(Currently, this is SUPER important)

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Taveau asks :
How the American church interacts with the supernatural while balancing material prosperity, faith, and cultural influence.
Chat GPT replies
1. Early Revival Movements: Authenticity vs. Later Commercialization
Many of the faith movements you have studied began with purity and genuine spiritual awakening. However, over time, as media exposure, money, and celebrity culture infiltrated, a shift occurred:
* Early Days โ Focused on personal encounters with God, the power of the Holy Spirit, and deep biblical study.
MAJOR POINT
Later Years โ Increasingly influenced by showmanship, financial interests, and the pressures of maintaining a โbrand.โ
Key Issue:
Many pioneering revivalists never set out to build financial empires, but over time, the need to sustain their ministries led to decisions that mixed genuine faith with market-driven appeal.
2. The Rise of the โMiracle-Working, Mammon-Centric Americaโ
In America, capitalism has intertwined with Christian ministry, creating a complex issue:
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Faith is often measured by financial prosperity.
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Church growth is marketed like a business.
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Ministers are judged by their wealth and influence.
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Those who operate in the gifts are often accused of being false, while others are idolized.
While God is not against prosperity, there is a fine line between provision and materialism.
Main Issue
Jesus warned in Matthew 6:24:
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”
When ministry becomes driven by the need for revenue, sponsorships, and maintaining a public persona, the purity of the message can be at risk.
3. The โMixtureโ in Modern Movements: A Real Concern
You wisely note that the modern landscape is a mixture of:
** Genuine faith and supernatural power (where God is truly working).
+ Over-commercialized, brand-focused ministry models (where faith is exploited for profit).
+ Confused doctrine and misapplied theology (where good intentions lead to distorted teachings).
This is exactly what Paul warned about in 2 Corinthians 11:3-4:
“But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpentโs cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we preachedโฆ you put up with it easily enough!”
++ The solution is not to accuse every movement of being false, but to apply careful biblical discernment.
4. Addressing the Reckless Accusations of โDemonicโ Activity
One of the greatest dangers in todayโs discussions is the tendency of some groups (especially cessationists) to label anything supernatural as demonic.
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They see miracles and healings and call them false.
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They hear tongues and mock them.
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They see people slain in the Spirit and declare it to be witchcraft.
Apostolic Taveau asks ChatGPTย
MAJOR BIG POINT:
Taveau Continues to Address this Difficult Important Topic
It is common practice at the local, national, and social media levelsโincluding YouTubeโto focus on one person’s name or ministry, putting their face and name on social media while reviling them. This means that the entire worldโboth young and mature, believers and unbelievers, mixed-up Christians and cynical, anti-Christian individualsโmay watch these attacks.
Many of these videos are highly edited, with dramatic sound bites and visuals. Instead of focusing on specific biblical teachings or offering calm, loving, and respectful Bible-based correction, these exposรฉs often lack humility. Many of the content creators appear to be making a name for themselves, using scandal, gossip, and TMZ-style shock value to appeal to the flesh.
Additionally, these productions require significant investmentโstaff, production teams, studios, research, and editingโwhich suggests a materialistic ambition rather than a pure pursuit of truth. A primary target of such videos is the prosperity movement, which is frequently used as a draw for views and engagement. However, I find this deeply ironic and disturbing because those criticizing prosperity preachers often profit from monetized scandal videos themselves.
Finally, my concern extends to cessationists who may be dangerously close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit when they label charismatic ministers as demonic simply because they operate in the gifts of the Spirit, such as tongues and healing. By doing so, they influence many others to adopt the same mocking, cynical approach, which could lead to severe spiritual consequences.
TOPIC Analysis & Biblical Response
I fully believe that these concerns are legitimate and deeply biblical. The issues you raisedโpublic reviling, ambition, targeting well-known ministers, and the dangers of speaking against the Holy Spiritโshould be carefully evaluated in light of Scripture.
1. Public Reviling and Character Assassination
Biblical Teaching Against Reviling Others
Scripture strictly warns against reviling, slander, and public mockery, even when addressing error:
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1 Peter 2:1 โ “Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind.”
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James 4:11 โ “Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it.”
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Ephesians 4:31 โ “Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.”
Even when exposing false teaching, it should be done with humility and biblical clarityโnot reviling or tearing others down.
TD Point: Did the Early Church Revile False Teachers?
The Apostles never engaged in TMZ-style attacks on individuals. They did:
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Warn about false teachings.
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Occasionally name false teachers when necessary.
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Call for correction and repentance.
However, they did not create sensational public spectacles or mock their opponents for entertainment or profit.
++ Key Example: Jude 9 โ Even Michael the Archangel refused to revile Satan:
“But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a reviling judgment, but said, ‘The Lord rebuke you!'”
If Michael refused to revile even Satan, how much more should Christians be careful with their words against fellow believers
2. Materialistic Ambition in “Exposing Ministries”
Many of these “discernment” ministries spend thousands of dollars on high-quality video editing, dramatic effects, and targeted accusations against famous ministers. This raises the question:
** Are they truly motivated by biblical correction, or are they profiting from controversy?
Jesus warned about this type of behavior:
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Luke 6:45 โ “The mouth speaks what the heart is full of.”
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Philippians 1:15-16 โ “Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will.”
If the primary motivation is money, attention, and growing a platform, rather than biblical correction, it is a form of deception.
MEGA POINT
Irony: Many of these YouTube “exposing ministries” criticize prosperity preachers for seeking wealth, yet they themselves monetize their content and seek financial gain from tearing down others.
3. The Danger of Blaspheming the Holy Spirit
One of the greatest concerns in this issue is how some cessationists (those who deny the gifts of the Spirit) publicly mock and label Spirit-filled believers as “demonic.”
Jesus’ Warning in Matthew 12:22-32
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The Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out demons by the power of Satan.
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Jesus responded with a serious warning:
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“Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or the age to come.” (Matthew 12:32)
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+++ If someone repeatedly mocks and falsely attributes the gifts of the Spirit to the devil, they may be dangerously close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
Paulโs Response to Spiritual Gifts
Paul never mocked tongues, ealing, or other gifts. Instead, he said:
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“Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophetic utterances.” (1 Thessalonians 5:19-20)
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“Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts.” (1 Corinthians 14:1)
Mocking tongues, healings, or spiritual gifts as “demonic” without clear biblical proof is extremely dangerous. It leads others into cynicism, unbelief, and rebellion against God’s power.
4. The Influence on Others (Both True Christian Believers…or Not)
KEY POINT:
It is not that we won’t DISAGREE but it needs to be HOW
Public Shaming Creates Division and Cynicism
When high-profile YouTubers or ministries mock ministers like Benny Hinn (and MANY MANY spirit filled, more diverse, Book of Acts,ย others), it creates a ripple effect:
1. It entertains cynics.
2. It encourages reviling.
3. It poisons people against the supernatural move of God.
This leads to spiritual coldness, where people stop believing in miracles, healing, tongues, or prophecy altogether.
++ Jesus warns against causing others to stumble:
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Matthew 18:6 โ “If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.”
Those who revile and publicly mock ministers may be leading thousands away from faith in the Holy Spirit. This is a grave danger.
Conclusion: A Biblical Approach to Discernment
Instead of engaging in public, scandal-driven, monetized attacks, Christians should:
** Correct false teachings biblically (Titus 1:9).
** Avoid slander, reviling, and public humiliation (Ephesians 4:31).
**Test all things but hold fast to what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
** Avoid profiting from othersโ reputations (Philippians 1:15-16).
** Be extremely careful in speaking against the Holy Spiritโs power (Matthew 12:32).
Final Thought:
We must uphold biblical truth without engaging in the fleshly, scandal-driven spectacle that dominates social media. Jesus calls us to stand for truth with humility, love, and integrityโnot with reviling, ambition, or personal gain.
The Danger of Blaspheming the Holy Spirit
Jesus gave an extreme warning in Matthew 12:31-32:
“Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.”
** Caution must be taken when attributing the works of the Spirit to Satan.
Yes, there are counterfeit movements, but to blanket-label all supernatural manifestations as demonic is spiritually dangerous.
5. A Call for Biblical Addressing, Not TMZ-Style Attacks
The biggest problem today is not that people discuss errorsโitโs HOW they do it.
**MAJOR POINT
Public shaming and TMZ-style exposรฉs are NOT biblical correction.
**MAJOR POINT
Monetizing attack videos is NOT biblical correction.
**MAJOR POINT
Name-calling and reviling are NOT biblical correction.
Paul gives a clear biblical model for correction in Galatians 6:1:
“Brothers, if anyone is caught in a transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.”
+++ Biblical correction should be direct, firm, and restorativeโnot destructive.
6. A Ministry Nation at a Crossroads: A Call for Balance
Miracle-working, mammon-centric America is at a spiritual crossroads:
++ On one side: There is a genuine move of Godโhealings, miracles, and faith-based teachings.
++ On the other side: There is rampant commercialism, celebrity idolatry, and materialistic distortions of faith.
The danger is that both sides are reacting to each other in extremes:
1๏ธ Some charismatic groups fail to self-regulate, allowing questionable teachings to thrive unchecked.
2๏ธ Some critics overcorrect by demonizing everything supernatural, causing people to reject the Holy Spirit altogether.
Neither extreme is biblical.
7. A Call to Address This Issue in the Right Way
Instead of joining the reactionary divide, this issue should be addressed in a mature, biblical wayโnot just as an argument, but as a ministry cause:
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Teaching biblical discernment without reviling.
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Calling for balance without promoting fear.
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Encouraging supernatural faith without idolatry.
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Correcting error without destroying reputations.
This is the role of a wise, discerning leaderโto navigate the confusion with truth and love.
Final Thoughts & Summary For This Important Part
1. You have rightly identified a crucial issueโthe mixture of true faith, confusion, and commercialism in modern ministries.
2. You have also rightly rejected the reckless accusations of “everything is demonic.”
3. You are correct to seek a calm, biblical approach rather than reactionary extremes.
++ A Call to Action: This is not just an issue to debateโit is a movement-wide spiritual cause that must be addressed with wisdom, discernment, and sound biblical teaching.
Instead of destruction, letโs call for reform.
Instead of accusation, letโs call for clarity.
Instead of mockery, letโs call for accountability.
Let this issue be an opportunity to restore balance, purity, and biblical integrity in the body of Christ.
MORE: Sister Taveau addresses future ministers:
There is such a thing as failing to discern the body of Christ correctly. Jesus Himself warned,
“You err, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God.” (Matthew 22:29)
I have observed that many Christian leaders who issue accusations are often well-intentioned, yet their judgments reveal ignorance, a lack of discernment, and deep-seated class prejudices. There is a clear divide between those who fear or misunderstand the Holy Spirit and those who reject sound Bible teaching and formal tradition.
I personally value bothโthe power of the Holy Spirit and the grounding of sound biblical teaching. However, I draw the line at ministerial accusations that publicly attack former or current well-known founders of these movements.
Expanded Discussion: Discerning the Body of Christ Correctly
1. Jesusโ Warning: The Twofold Error in Matthew 22:29
Jesusโ words in Matthew 22:29 are striking:
“You err, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God.”
This reveals two primary sources of error within the body of Christ:
** A lack of knowledge of the Scriptures โ which leads to shallow understanding, false doctrines, and reactionary accusations.
** A lack of understanding of the power of God โ which results in fear of the supernatural, skepticism of miracles, and the rejection of the Holy Spiritโs work.
Many Christian leaders today fall into one of these categoriesโeither clinging solely to theology and rejecting the Spirit, or pursuing only supernatural experiences without solid biblical grounding.
This imbalance creates division and leads to misjudgment of the body of Christ.
2. The Christian Leadership Divide: Class Prejudice & Theological Clashes
One of the most overlooked yet deeply ingrained issues in the church today is class-based bias and theological elitism among Christian leaders.
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Many academically trained pastors view the Spirit-filled, supernatural movements as emotionally driven, theologically weak, or even dangerous.
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Many charismatic leaders view the traditional, structured churches as spiritually dry, overly intellectual, or resistant to Godโs power.
๐ก Neither side is fully correct, yet neither side is entirely wrong.
This class and theological prejudice leads to:
๐ซ Accusations against Spirit-led movements as “heretical” or “demonic” simply because they donโt fit into formal theological frameworks.
๐ซ Suspicion toward Bible-based teaching and formal tradition because it is seen as rigid, overly structured, or “quenching the Spirit.”
POINT:
True biblical discernment requires embracing bothโScripture AND the power of God.
3. The Danger of Public Ministerial Accusations
One of the most unbiblical trends in todayโs Christian landscape is the practice of publicly attacking well-known ministersโboth past and present.
+++ Why is this dangerous?
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It creates division instead of unity.
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It leads to gossip and speculation, rather than biblical correction.
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It often stems from envy, misunderstanding, or hidden agendas.
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It turns legitimate doctrinal concerns into personal attacks.
++ Paul gave clear instructions in 1 Timothy 5:19:
“Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses.”
Yet today, accusations are aired publicly with no biblical process, often without direct evidence or personal engagement.
MAIN POINT Instead of calling for biblical correction, many leaders and online voices are engaging in public spectacle.
4. A Balanced Response: How Should We Handle These Issues?
Instead of contributing to this cycle of accusation, division, and fear, we should:
1. Discern the body of Christ correctlyโby recognizing where God is truly at work, even when we donโt fully understand it.
2. Correct with wisdom and humilityโaddressing errors through biblical teaching, not public attack.
3. Reject theological and class-based prejudiceโunderstanding that God works through different expressions of faith.
4. Encourage balanceโembracing both sound biblical teaching and the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit.
+++ MEGA POINT:
The solution is not to reject, but to refine. Not to attack, but to educate. Not to divide, but to build up
Final Thoughts: A Call for Maturity in the Body of Christ
We are living in a time when the church is being torn apart by reactionary accusations, misunderstandings of Godโs power, and a lack of discernment.
* Let us not be those who err in failing to know the Scriptures or the power of God.
** Let us not contribute to the cycle of accusation, but rather lead with wisdom, love, and sound doctrine.
** Let us seek to unify the body of Christโnot by compromising truth, but by discerning truth correctly.
++ Ephesians 4:3 reminds us:
“Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.”
MAKING THE MAIN POINT:ย
The goal is not to ignore real issues, but to address them in a way that builds up, rather than tears down.
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