MINISTRY AI AND I
PART 5 “ARE YOU SUBMITTED?”
JESUS AND CHIEF APOSTOLIC SR AUTHORITY
Acts 10:38 “Jesus went about doing good,
healing all who oppressed by the devil, and the Lord was with Him”
Was Jesus a Top Dog or a Hands On Pioneering Ministry Servant Leader?
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Learning Vocabulary from T D’Arcy, Cross Body Unity and Taveau Teaching Center’
- Organic Church
- Top Down Church
- Jesus Models First Generation Apostolic Submission
- “Mutual submission”
Apostle Taveau says to Chat GPT AI
Please make a mini brief definition of Bible ” Organic First Church” ministry patriachian culture morphing into the term TOP DOWN church (clearly define that) into what is THE predominant society church ,fellowship ministry and style today. I want to introduce the terms before I discuss
Chat replies:
Organic First Church Ministry:
The Organic First Church Ministry refers to the leadership structure and culture seen in the early Christian church as described in the New Testament, especially in the Book of Acts. This model emphasized servant leadership, mutual submission, and shared responsibility. Leaders served the community humbly, engaging with members in a relational, participatory way, without a rigid hierarchical structure. Leadership was distributed among the apostles, elders, and deacons, and decisions were made collaboratively, ensuring the active involvement of all believers.
Key Characteristics:
- Servant leadership: Leaders serve rather than dominate.
- Mutual accountability: All members share responsibility.
- Inclusive participation: Every member has a role in ministry.
Patriarchal Church Culture:
The Patriarchal Church Culture describes a hierarchical, authoritarian model of church governance that evolved from ancient societal structures, particularly Roman and Greek patriarchal systems. In this system, a centralized leadership, often embodied in a single leader (e.g., bishop, pope), holds power over the congregation. Leadership is often exclusive, focusing on status, tradition, and control, which contrasts with the organic, relational leadership of the early church.
Key Characteristics:
- Centralized authority: One or a few leaders hold power.
- Exclusivity: Decision-making is confined to the leadership elite.
- Hierarchical structure: Emphasis on power and status.
Top-Down Church:
The Top-Down Church refers to the modern authoritarian church governance model, which often features rigid hierarchy, where leadership is centralized in the hands of a few individuals or a single person (e.g., pastor, bishop, or apostle). This system contrasts sharply with the early church’s organic structure, as decisions are typically made by those at the top of the hierarchy, and members often have little to no say in governance. The emphasis is on control, influence, and compliance rather than mutual service and shared leadership.
Key Characteristics:
- Authoritarian leadership: Leaders impose decisions and control.
- Rigid hierarchy: Clear power dynamics from top to bottom.
- Limited participation: Congregational involvement is often restricted.
Predominant Society Church, Fellowship, and Ministry Style Today:
Today, many churches, fellowships, and ministries have adopted or morphed into a Top-Down Church structure, particularly within mega-churches, charismatic movements, and certain denominations. This trend can be traced back to the institutionalization of Christianity in the Roman Empire, further solidified by the Middle Ages and the Protestant Reformation. Modern ministries often emphasize the authority of a single leader (often referred to as a “visionary leader”) who exercises significant control over direction, doctrine, and decision-making. This model is increasingly dominant in contemporary society, particularly in environments where churches are large and influence-driven.
Key Characteristics:
- Centralized leadership: Power is concentrated in the hands of one or a few leaders.
- Strategic direction: The leader(s) shape the ministry’s vision, goals, and practices.
- High control: Authority is often absolute, with limited accountability or collaboration.
Introducing These Terms:
By introducing these terms—Organic First Church Ministry, Patriarchal Church Culture, Top-Down Church, and the Predominant Society Church Style Today—you can now discuss how historical shifts and sociocultural influences have transformed church leadership and ministry styles from relational, participatory models to hierarchical, authoritative ones. This context will help frame your discussion on how modern churches may need to reflect on these shifts and reclaim a more organic, servant-leadership approach rooted in biblical principles.
Taveau asks
Regarding “First Things First” in Jesus Christ work birthing ministry:
What was Jesus Main Thrust?
Meaning, in light of all the ministry business that goes on now?
Chat GPT replies
Jesus Christ’s mission on earth can be summarized through two core themes: love and salvation. These principles were the bedrock of His teachings, the essence of His ministry, and the fulfillment of God’s divine plan.
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Love: At the heart of Jesus’ ministry was the command to love. He emphasized love as the greatest commandment—love for God with all one’s heart, soul, and mind, and love for one’s neighbor as oneself. This form of love was not just a sentiment but a call to action, encompassing forgiveness, grace, and compassion for others.
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Salvation: Another fundamental aspect of Jesus’ message was salvation. He proclaimed Himself as the way, the truth, and the life, offering humanity the opportunity for reconciliation with God through faith in Him. Jesus taught that through His sacrificial death, humanity could be forgiven for their sins and granted eternal life with God. This path to salvation was not achieved by works alone but by faith in Jesus Christ as the Son of God.
Alongside these core themes, Jesus also addressed key issues of His time:
- Repentance: He called people to turn away from sin and embrace righteousness.
- Faith: Jesus emphasized the need for faith in Him as the key to eternal life.
- Justice and Mercy: He challenged the societal norms that upheld injustice, calling for a radical love and care for the marginalized.
- The Kingdom of God: He preached the good news of God’s kingdom, urging people to seek the kingdom and its righteousness.
In essence, Jesus’ mission was to bring God’s love and salvation to all people, calling them into a relationship with God that was characterized by love, repentance, and faith in Him.
Apostle TAVEAU ASKS ChatGPT
Assuming that Christ mentored and trained His original 12 apostles, his disciples about authority. And the apostles did also, Apostle Paul as well and Please describe about all of that in depth
Q. Did Jesus model Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord,” which refers to “chain of command,” with His first 12 apostles?
Chat GPT AI ANSWERS:
Jesus’ Authority with His Disciples and the Apostles:
Jesus, in His earthly ministry, demonstrated both authority and servant leadership, and this pattern was also carried over by the apostles in their leadership of the early Church. Here’s a deeper exploration of the authority exhibited by Jesus and His apostles:
JESUS’ AUTHORITY
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Teaching Authority: Jesus’ teaching was distinctive in its authority. Unlike the scribes and Pharisees, who often quoted other teachers or traditions, Jesus spoke with direct, divine authority. He taught with clarity, power, and wisdom, presenting Himself as the ultimate revelation of God’s will. His teachings were rooted in truth and challenged conventional wisdom, calling people to a deeper understanding of God’s commandments and the Kingdom of Heaven.
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Commanding Authority: Jesus gave direct, often radical commands to His disciples, such as “Follow Me,” “Leave your nets,” and “Go and make disciples of all nations.” His commands were always purposeful and aligned with His divine mission. They were not suggestions but directives that required full commitment and obedience from His followers. This authoritative leadership established His role as the guiding figure for the disciples’ lives and ministry.
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Miraculous Authority: Jesus’ miracles were an outward display of His divine authority. His power over nature, disease, and death underscored His identity as the Son of God. Whether calming storms, healing the sick, or raising the dead, His miracles served not only as signs of His compassion but also as affirmations of His divine authority.
THE APOSTLES’ AUTHORITY
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Authority Derived from Jesus: The apostles’ authority came directly from Jesus. As His chosen representatives, they were empowered to carry out His work. Jesus commissioned them to spread His message and to establish the early Church. Their authority was not self-appointed; it was given to them by Christ, and they exercised it with the understanding that they were stewards of His mission.
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Teaching and Proclaiming Authority: Much like Jesus, the apostles taught with authority. They shared the Gospel, explained Jesus’ teachings, and called people to repentance and faith. Their role in teaching and preaching was foundational for the establishment of Christian doctrine and the growth of the early Church. They were entrusted with the responsibility of preserving and passing on the teachings of Christ.
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Church Governance: The apostles also exercised authority in matters of Church governance. They made decisions regarding doctrine, resolved disputes, and appointed leaders within the growing Christian community. The apostles played a key role in establishing order and unity in the early Church, ensuring that the message of Jesus was faithfully communicated and lived out.
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Miraculous Ministry: Like Jesus, the apostles were granted power to perform miracles. These signs and wonders served as confirmations of their apostolic authority and helped to validate their message. Their miracles were a testament to the ongoing work of the Holy Spirit in the Church, just as Jesus had demonstrated the power of the Spirit during His ministry.
Mutual Submission and the Chain of Command:
In regards to mutual submission as described in Ephesians 5:21, Jesus indeed modeled this principle, although in a unique and profound way. Jesus’ leadership was not about asserting dominance but about submitting Himself to the will of the Father, even unto death. Throughout His ministry, He demonstrated humility and servant leadership, laying down His life for His followers (John 15:13). He did not lord His authority over His disciples but instead served them, teaching them to do the same.
While Ephesians 5:21 speaks to the principle of mutual submission in the body of Christ, where individuals honor one another in reverence to Christ, Jesus’ leadership exemplified this through His sacrificial love, His willingness to serve, and His ultimate submission to God’s will. The apostles, following Jesus’ example, likewise modeled mutual submission within the early Church, leading by serving, not by dominating.
Thus, the “chain of command” within the body of Christ is not a rigid hierarchy but a structure based on servant leadership and mutual respect, with Christ at the head. In this sense, mutual submission in the fear of the Lord is about acknowledging Christ’s authority and following His example of sacrificial leadership.
ChatGPT said:
Taveau asks Chat GPT to define
The Patriarchy that governed ancient Rome, and dominated over culture and affected the ministry in the First “mutually submitted in the fear of the Lord” Ephesians 5:21 entire ‘servant leader ” (“no big I’s ) church
Chat GPT responds
The term “patrician” originates from ancient Rome, referring to the elite class of noble families who held significant social, political, and economic power. These individuals were typically wealthy landowners and occupied key positions within Roman governance and religious institutions. PBS: Public Broadcasting Service
Characteristics and Governance Style of Roman Patricians
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Political Authority: Patricians dominated the Roman Senate and held most of the high-ranking offices, thereby controlling legislative processes and state decisions. Ducksters
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Social Hierarchy: They were considered superior to the plebeians (common citizens), leading to a rigid class structure that limited social mobility. Encyclopedia Britannica
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Economic Control: As major landowners, patricians amassed wealth through agriculture and the labor of slaves, reinforcing their economic dominance.
Slave Ownership and Treatment
In Roman society, slavery was integral to the economy and daily life. Slaves were considered property under Roman law, lacking personal rights. They could be bought, sold, or rented out at any time, and their lives were often harsh, with punishments like whipping being common. Lumen LearningPBS: Public Broadcasting Service
Perpetuation of Patrician Traits in Modern Society
The hierarchical tendencies of ancient patricians manifest in various contemporary contexts:
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Social Stratification: Elitism persists across nations and cultures, where certain groups maintain dominance over others based on wealth, ethnicity, or social status.
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Religious Institutions: Within some churches, hierarchical structures can lead to abuses of power, where leaders exploit their positions, mirroring the control once exercised by patricians.
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Corporate Environments: In business, authoritative leadership styles may suppress employee autonomy, treating workers as mere resources rather than valued individuals.
Implications for Modern Christian Ministry
Recognizing and addressing these hierarchical tendencies is crucial for fostering a ministry that reflects Christ’s teachings:
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Servant Leadership: Emphasizing humility and service over authority aligns with Jesus’ model of leadership.
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Equality and Inclusion: Ensuring all members have a voice and are valued prevents the formation of elitist structures within the church.
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Accountability: Implementing checks and balances within church leadership can mitigate potential abuses of power.
By consciously moving away from hierarchical and oppressive practices reminiscent of Roman patricianism, modern ministries can better embody the inclusive and servant-hearted nature of the early Christian church
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Taveau asks
How would many of these ‘traits” possibliy show up in Christian ministry?
Chat GPT answers:
POINT: When the traits of Roman Patrician culture manifest in Christian ministry, they often result in hierarchical, controlling, and exploitative behaviors. Although the early Christian church was established in opposition to such values, human tendencies toward power, status, and control can resurface, particularly when ministries adopt authoritarian structures. Here’s how these traits might appear:
1. Elitism and Class Division in Ministry
- Leadership Overreach: Leaders may see themselves as spiritually superior, believing their position entitles them to unchecked authority.
- Insider-Outsider Mentality: Ministries may divide people into “inner circles” of influence while marginalizing those perceived as less valuable or spiritually inferior.
- Favoritism: Wealthy donors or influential figures may receive preferential treatment in leadership decisions, while those with fewer resources are overlooked.
Scriptural Contrast:
- James 2:1-4 warns against showing favoritism to the wealthy in the church.
- Galatians 3:28 emphasizes unity in Christ, breaking down divisions of status.
2. Authoritarian Rule and Control
- Unquestioned Leadership: Some leaders may demand loyalty and submission, discouraging open dialogue or questioning.
- Spiritual Manipulation: Misusing scriptures to justify controlling behavior, often under the guise of “spiritual authority” or “covering.”
- Lack of Accountability: Leaders may evade accountability, operating without transparency or external oversight.
Scriptural Contrast:
- Matthew 20:25-28 teaches servant leadership, rejecting authoritarian models.
- 1 Peter 5:2-3 instructs leaders to shepherd God’s people willingly, not for personal gain or dominance.
3. Exploitation and Slave-Like Treatment
- Ministry as Labor Force: Volunteers and staff may be treated as expendable, their time and efforts exploited without fair compensation or rest.
- Transactional Relationships: Leaders may see people as tools for church growth rather than individuals with dignity.
- Burnout Culture: Overworking staff in the name of ministry while neglecting their well-being.
Scriptural Contrast:
- Colossians 4:1 reminds leaders to treat workers justly and fairly.
- Matthew 11:28-30 offers rest and gentleness, opposing exploitation.
4. Extravagance and Display of Wealth
- Prosperity Preoccupation: Some ministries may glorify material wealth, using extravagant buildings, luxury items, or costly events to symbolize “God’s favor.”
- Image Management: Public perception becomes prioritized over genuine ministry, leading to showmanship and superficial displays of success.
- Neglect of the Needy: While resources are poured into appearances, practical outreach and care for the marginalized may be minimized.
Scriptural Contrast:
- Luke 12:15 warns against greed and focusing on possessions.
- James 1:27 defines true religion as caring for orphans and widows.
5. Moral Pragmatism and Religious Control
- Justifying Harmful Behavior: Leaders may justify unethical behavior as necessary for “protecting the ministry” or advancing a vision.
- Legalism and Hypocrisy: Ministry rules may become rigid and burdensome, yet leaders themselves may not follow them.
- Suppressing Criticism: Any dissent or constructive feedback may be labeled as rebellion or divisiveness.
Scriptural Contrast:
- Matthew 23:23-24 condemns religious leaders for focusing on minor laws while neglecting justice, mercy, and faithfulness.
- Isaiah 1:17 calls for the defense of the oppressed rather than empty religious rituals.
6. Suppression of Dissent and Independent Thought
- Public Shaming: Leaders may use sermons or social media to target critics or perceived threats.
- Intellectual Control: Questioning doctrine or leadership decisions may be forbidden, stifling independent thought.
- Spiritual Gaslighting: Those who raise concerns may be accused of rebellion, lack of faith, or being “Jezebels” or “witches.”
Scriptural Contrast:
- Acts 17:11 commends the Bereans for examining Paul’s teachings against scripture.
- Galatians 6:1 encourages gentle correction rather than condemnation.
Conclusion: These Systems (not pure “community”)
When ministries adopt a Roman Patrician mindset, they risk resembling the very systems Jesus opposed. Such practices diminish the gospel’s message of humility, service, and justice. Recognizing and rejecting these traits allows ministries to reflect Christ’s model of servant leadership, valuing people over power and relationships over status. By fostering accountability, transparency, and genuine care, Christian leaders can prevent the repetition of these harmful patterns.
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