#3 ROOTS: (HIS, MY, OUR )TURF GUARDING + PRECISION, DIVISION, SCHISM AND PURE COMMUNITY

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CHRISTIAN LEADER TURF GUARDING #3 of 3

HIS, MY, OUR TURF VS OUR EPHESIANS 4 COMMUNITY
But at What Cost “to the Pure Respectful, Representation of Christ”

“For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?” I Corinthians 3:4

HOT TOPIC: Celebrity, Tawdry Gossip, Church Division,Seer Deep “Scanning” as Gnosticism(?)

In 1 Corinthians 1:10-13, Paul addresses the divisions within the Corinthian church, where believers were aligning themselves with different leaders:

“Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?” (1 Corinthians 1:12-13, KJV)

Taveau wonders and asks ChatGPT AI

1.Q. Who Were Paul, Apollos, and Cephas? Describe the First Church problem back then.

Chat GPT AI answers

Paul – The founder of the Corinthian church, an apostle called directly by Jesus Christ (Acts 9). He preached Christ crucified, emphasizing grace and faith over legalism. Many Gentiles and new converts in Corinth followed his teaching.
Apollos – A Jewish preacher from Alexandria (Acts 18:24-28). He was an eloquent speaker, strong in the Scriptures, and had been taught by Priscilla and Aquila. He later became a respected teacher in Corinth. Some believers preferred him due to his intellectual and polished speaking style.
Cephas (Peter) – The leading apostle and one of Jesus’ original twelve disciples. He had a strong influence among Jewish Christians. Some Corinthians may have preferred Cephas because of his direct connection to Christ and his traditional Jewish background.

2. Q. What Was the Problem?

The Corinthian believers were dividing into factions based on personal preferences for different ministry styles, teachings, and personalities. Some liked Paul’s direct and grace-filled teaching, others preferred Apollos’ intellectual eloquence, and some leaned toward Peter’s Jewish apostolic authority.

Paul’s Point

Paul rebuked this division, emphasizing that Christ is the head of the Church, not any human leader. He asked, “Is Christ divided?” to show that no leader, no matter how gifted, should take preeminence over Jesus.

Modern-Day Parallel

Today, some believers say, “I follow this pastor,” “I follow this movement,” or “I follow this denomination,” creating unnecessary divisions. Paul’s message is clear: Christ alone is the foundation, and we should not elevate any human leader above Him.

APOSTLE TD ADDRESSES MULTIPLE OFTEN INTER-RELATED, VIEWS OF CHRIST EFFECTING SURELY HOT TOPICS

“Office Turf Protecting” tied in Holy Scriptures, Division, Now Christian Celebrity Marketing

Also Their Effects on the Last Days View of Following Christ, being in Ministry, Desiring to Know Jesus for Eternal Salvation,etc

TAVEAU’S BIG POINT:

Who ought to elevated in the people’s sight?

Apostle Paul states:
“Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?”

Paul’s Rebuke in 1 Corinthians 1:12-13:

Paul addresses the division in the Corinthian (the well known as carnal,fleshly) church by saying:

“Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?” (1 Corinthians 1:12-13)

TD’s Modern Perspective: Keeping the Prophetic Roots Clean of Famous Christian Following

Paul’s words seem to directly address the roots of what we now see in the “Keeping Up with the Joneses” mentality, particularly within the Christian celebrity culture. This modern phenomenon mirrors the “Celebrity Christian Minister Club” and some of the contemporary Christian cults, where followers elevate certain well-known leaders while neglecting the core message of Christ.

The modern church, influenced by media-driven ministry, often promotes classism, hierarchical structures, and a respecter of persons—all elements of carnality—which are in stark contrast to the First Church community Paul speaks of in Ephesians 4 and 5:21. This community, marked by mutual submission and humility, stands opposed to the “Big I, Little You” mentality that has taken root in many modern ministries. The ministry world, influenced by the celebrity culture, has produced haughty, elitist groups that are partisan, which runs counter to the wisdom from above that James describes in James 3:17.

In this context, “Ministry Clubby Bias” arises, where a select few leaders are exalted, often based on media influence and the size of their following. This results in an atmosphere where a few “achieved great leaders” are respected and promoted, while many others are overlooked or marginalized. This system of respect and influence is often more focused on image and status than on the humility and service that define Christ’s true ministry.

TD Addresses

Paul’s Rebuke of Famous Face Following: A Call for True Discipleship

Paul addresses the issue of famous face following in two critical passages, offering a necessary correction. He warns against the rise of the “fan club” mentality that creates a following of delightful fans, but lacks true, quality discipleship. This phenomenon thrives in Christian ministry where many are enamored by the outward presentation, the “showbiz” effect of charismatic leaders, but few are genuinely committed to Christ’s teachings and example.

In these verses, Paul trains against Christian Ministry “Wannabeism”—a mindset where individuals seek fame and influence rather than true service and humility. It highlights the narcissistic ego that plagues many, elevating infamous senior pastors, gifted prophets, and signs-and-wonders apostles. These leaders can mesmerize, fascinate, and hypnotize their followers, only to use and manipulate them, just as Eli did in 1 Samuel. These “leaders” thrive on the atmosphere and presentation, prioritizing style and doctrine that appeal to the masses, but at the cost of genuine discipleship.

The Danger of the “Demas” Temptation: The greatest temptation of those seeking a large following is the Demas syndrome—the temptation for fame, recognition, and a big identity. These individuals, lacking a solid sense of who they are in Christ, turn to the world’s standards for validation. They fall prey to false teaching, focusing on the accumulation of wealth, power, and prestige rather than the pursuit of godly character and relationships. This shallow, materialistic focus breeds what can be called the modern “Demas-ization”, which was prophesied in January 2020, prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.

This mentality prioritizes temporal gain over eternal values and leads to the loss of genuine, meaningful relationships. When the pursuit of wealth and success becomes the primary goal, people lose their first love for Christ. If they had any love for Him to begin with, it’s replaced by self-interest and self-promotion.

APOSTLE TAVEAU’S NEWBIE VISITOR MULTI PAST EXPERIENCES 1990′s (My only purpose for the many INNOCENT,UNSUSPECTING, AND TARGETED MANY)

SUBJECT ..THE GOSSIPING/TALE BEARING, MANY SKITTISH SAINTS
The Ability To Trust These 2 Timothy 3:1-5

The Gossip and Anti-Community Culture: A major byproduct of this culture is gossip—particularly in the realm of Christian ministry, where social media amplifies the voices of those with ambitious, double-tongued intentions. Such individuals are untrustworthy and create division, rather than fostering true community. Their actions are anti-Christ, opposing the eternal, humble, and soul-winning community that Paul envisioned in Ephesians 4. The community Paul describes is one of transformation, unity, and purity, marked by relationships that reflect Christ’s love and humility.

A Call for Transformation: This shallow, anti-Christ “playtime” in Christian ministry must be judged and corrected. The leaders and laypeople who perpetuate this culture must return to a focus on genuine, humble community—the kind Paul describes. A community that deferentially prioritizes others, humble in service, and centered on Christ. This is the transformed, pure community we need right now in the body of Christ.

Sister T’s own ministry training phrases

“We are surrounded by a great crowd of false witnesses.”
“Telegraph, Telegram, Tell a WELP.”
“The Back Whisperers.”
“Gossip is the poor human’s bread: they love to feast on it.”

Pastor Taveau asks Chat GPT

Please comment, expound on whatever you want to say about my pithy phrases

Chat AI Comments
Taveau’s slogans beautifully capture the essence of what many Christian communities, especially those involved in celebrity-style ministries or cliquish groups, experience in terms of false accusations, gossip, and the toxic dynamics of divisive behavior. Let’s break down and reflect on the meanings behind these slogans and how they speak to the modern church context.

1. “We are surrounded by a great crowd of false witnesses”

This slogan directly reflects the biblical warning from Hebrews 12:1, which speaks about being surrounded by a cloud of witnesses as we run the race of faith. However, Taveau flips this on its head to describe the false accusations and gossip that bombard individuals in modern Christian circles. Instead of witnessing for the truth, many are witnessing falsely, accusing others without true knowledge, and condemning based on unfounded narratives. It reminds us that in today’s Christian circles, there is a lack of discernment, and too many people are ready to speak against others without understanding the whole story or the truth of the matter. This ultimately creates an atmosphere of fear, division, and false witness that contradicts the body of Christ’s call to love one another.

2. “Telegraph, Telegram, Tell a WELP”

This slogan humorously and poignantly highlights the speed at which gossip spreads in today’s world, especially in Christian circles. It’s a play on the classic phrase “telegraph, telephone, tell a woman,” often used to illustrate how quickly news or gossip can spread. The WELP twist adds a bit of sarcasm, illustrating how unverified and hurtful the gossip can be, leaving others in its wake with confusion and pain. The term “tell a WELP” evokes a sense of drama, of emotional reaction, that typically accompanies the spreading of rumors or false accusations.

Instead of this culture of rapid gossip, we are reminded of the biblical way of dealing with others, as outlined in Matthew 18:15-17—when conflicts arise, Christians are called to go directly to the person involved and seek reconciliation, rather than broadcasting the issue to everyone else.

3. “The Back Whisperers”

This phrase reflects the cowardice and deception of those who speak ill of others behind their backs, while pretending to be supportive or friendly to their faces. These back whisperers create division in the church by undermining leaders, individuals, or groups through gossip, rumors, and slander. Proverbs 16:28 says that “a perverse person stirs up conflict,” and this kind of secretive slander is one of the most destructive forces in any Christian community.

In contrast, the Bible calls Christians to be open, honest, and transparent. Ephesians 4:25 instructs us to “put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.” The body of Christ is built up through truth, not through whispered lies and half-truths. Transparency and openness are vital in authentic Christian relationships.

4. “Gossip is the poor human’s bread: they love to feast on it”

This slogan highlights how gossip has become the “bread”—the daily sustenance—of many in modern Christian communities. People in some circles thrive on gossip, spreading unsubstantiated rumors as though it is food for the soul, and filling the void in their hearts with negative words about others.

Gossip is self-perpetuating: the more people indulge in it, the more they crave it. Proverbs 18:8 says that “the words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to the inmost parts.” People are drawn to it because it feeds their desire for drama, controversy, and sometimes feeling superior by tearing others down. But the Bible speaks clearly against it. In Ephesians 4:29, we are instructed to avoid unwholesome talk, instead speaking words that are helpful and building others up. The true bread of the Christian life is the Word of God and fellowship with one another, not the feasting on and spreading of rumors.

Taveau asks very directly
Chat, What Does This Reveal About Today’s Church?

Chat states:

These slogans serve as a warning and a call to action for the modern church, particularly those involved in ministries marked by exclusivity, clannish behavior, and celebrity-driven leadership. They shed light on the toxic culture that can form when gossip, false accusations, and backbiting become normalized. These behaviors not only harm individuals but damage the overall witness of the church to the world.

Instead of servant leadership, mutual respect, and humility that the First Church displayed, many ministries today have fallen prey to a culture of suspicion, division, and pride. Jesus, Paul, and the early church modelled a community based on love, reconciliation, and unity, not competition and exclusivity.

Conclusion:

The culture of gossip, false accusations, and division that Pastor T describes is the antithesis of the biblical model of Christian community. We are called to a life that is marked by love, truth, and servant leadership, not by control, fear, and false judgment. As believers, we must reject these toxic behaviors and instead model the humility and grace of Christ, focusing on building up the body of Christ rather than tearing it down through false witnesses and divisive gossip.

In the end, as Taveau’s slogans suggest, gossip and false witness will always be around, but it’s up to us as the Church to reject them and embrace the truth, reconciliation, and peace that reflect the character of Christ.

Change subjects

Pastor Taveau asks ChatGPT Church Division

Please list Apostle Paul views regarding a “transformed Bible based office led community”

Chat GPT AI responds with a Teaching on This Passage

1. Paul Rebukes Division in the Church

The Corinthians were forming factions based on their favorite leaders—Paul, Apollos, Peter (Cephas), and even some who claimed only Christ. This revealed spiritual immaturity and carnal thinking (1 Cor. 3:1-4).

2. Christ Alone is the Focus

Paul makes it clear: Christ is not divided! No leader—whether Paul, Apollos, or Peter—was crucified for them. Only Christ died for their sins. Therefore, their faith should be in Jesus, not in human leaders.

3. Spiritual Identity Must Be in Jesus, Not Human Ministers

Even today, people elevate preachers, denominations, or prophetic movements over Jesus Himself. This is dangerous because:

It creates spiritual elitism (“I follow this prophet, so I’m more right than you”).
It distracts from the gospel (salvation by Christ alone).
It can lead to control, false teaching, or misplaced loyalty to men instead of to God.

Application to Today’s Church

Reject Personality Worship – No preacher, prophet, or apostle should be placed above Christ.
Avoid Sectarianism – True unity in the Body of Christ is based on Jesus, not movements or ministers.
Test the Spirits (1 John 4:1) – A true minister of God will always point people to Christ, not themselves.

Final Thought

Paul’s rebuke is still relevant today. Any movement that puts more emphasis on a leader, a “prophet,” a denomination, or a doctrine over the simplicity of Christ’s gospel is in danger of division and deception. Jesus alone is Lord!

PAUL TWO: The First Scripture About All this:

1 Corinthians 3:4-6 (KJV):

“For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.“

Teaching on This Verse:

Paul was addressing division in the church at Corinth. Some believers were aligning themselves with different ministers (Paul, Apollos, Peter), creating factions instead of recognizing that all true ministers are simply servants of God.

Key Lessons from This Passage:

Carnality in Sectarianism – Dividing over human leaders is a sign of spiritual immaturity (v.4). When people elevate ministers above Christ, they operate in the flesh rather than the Spirit.
God’s Sovereignty in Ministry – Paul planted (evangelized), Apollos watered (discipled), but God is the one who brings true spiritual growth (v.6). No minister has power in themselves; all fruit comes from God.
Unity in Christ – The focus should always be on Jesus, not on human leaders. Christ is the foundation of the Church, and ministers are simply workers in His field.

Application Today

Many churches or ministries still fall into the same trap, where people claim loyalty to specific leaders instead of focusing on Christ.
True apostolic and prophetic ministry should point to Jesus, not to personalities or man-made movements.
Ministers should remain humble, knowing that only God gives the increase

“SPECIFIC ISSUES” that surface through the many ministry visitor “prophetic embed” study years in ONLY charismatic prophetic, faith and long worship “mind reading” sort of ministries

PRECISION VS DIVISION

With Missing Leader Realistic Deep Bible Perspective?

REPEAT: Paul chastizes “”Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?”

Teaching on This Passage

1. Paul Rebukes Division in the Church

2. Christ Alone is the Focus

3. Spiritual Identity Must Be in Jesus, Not Human Ministers

Even today, people elevate preachers, denominations, or prophetic movements over Jesus Himself. This is dangerous because:

It creates spiritual elitism (“I follow this prophet, so I’m more right than you”).
It distracts from the gospel (salvation by Christ alone).
It can lead to control, false teaching, or misplaced loyalty to men instead of to God.

Application to Today’s Church

Reject Personality Worship – No preacher, prophet, or apostle should be placed above Christ.
Avoid Sectarianism – True unity in the Body of Christ is based on Jesus, not movements or ministers.
Test the Spirits (1 John 4:1) – A true minister of God will always point people to Christ, not themselves.

Final Thought

Taveau asks Chat to compare The Purposes of Christian diverse ministry Ephesians 4

COMMUNITY VS PERSONAL MINISTRY TURF OWNING

God’s True Purpose for “The Community” vs. Turf-Owning Leadership

1. God’s Purpose for His People: The Transforming Power of True Community

From the Old Testament to the New, God’s vision has always been about forming a people who represent His nature, righteousness, and love to the world—a community, not a corporation.

Genesis 12:2-3 – God’s covenant with Abraham was to bless all nations through his descendants, not to build an empire.
Exodus 19:6 – Israel was to be a kingdom of priests—not a controlling hierarchy, but a people reflecting God’s ways.
Acts 2:42-47 – The First Church lived in community, sharing and supporting one another, demonstrating a Kingdom society that transformed lives.

Paul took this even further, showing that the Body of Christ is a living, Spirit-led community—not a divided kingdom of factions and power structures.

2. Paul’s Vision: The Church as a Christlike Community

Paul emphasized unity, humility, and servant leadership, warning against division, competition, and religious control.

Ephesians 4:3-6 – “Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.” The focus is on one Body, one Spirit, one faith, not religious turf wars.
1 Corinthians 1:12-13 – “Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided?” Paul rebukes sectarianism (group loyalty over unity in Christ).
Philippians 2:3-4 – “Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory… look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.” True community focuses on serving, not self-promotion.

When the church models the humility of Christ, it transforms society—not through power struggles, but through love, selflessness, and truth.

Sister Taveau asks Chat GPT to expound upon

When Leadership Becomes Turf-Owning & Guarding

Chat states

Paul warned of false teachers and authoritarian leaders who seek control rather than the flourishing of the community.

1. Turf-Owning: Power vs. Pastoring

A true pastor feeds the flock (John 21:17), but a turf-owner guards their territory out of fear, pride, or greed.

Matthew 23:13 – Jesus rebuked the Pharisees: “For ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.”
3 John 9-10 – Diotrephes “loveth to have the preeminence among them”—he rejected outsiders and even cast people out of the church.
1 Timothy 6:5 – Paul warns against men of corrupt minds who see ministry as gain (a business, an empire, a platform).

These leaders do not serve the community; they control it. They build tribes, movements, and brands rather than a Spirit-led family of God.

2. The “Need” Effect of True Community vs. the Damage of Turf Control

True Community (Pauline Model)	Turf-Owning Leadership
Transforms society through love, service, and righteousness.	Protects self-interest and status, ignoring the community’s real needs.
Invites, equips, and sends people to serve and lead.	Restricts, controls, and limits others to keep power.
Seeks God’s Kingdom expansion (Matthew 6:33).	Seeks church brand expansion, numbers, and influence.
Walks in faith—trusts the Spirit to guide the people.	Walks in fear—afraid of “losing” people to other groups.

When pastors shift from feeding to guarding, they cease to shepherd and start to control, dominate, and manipulate. That is not of Christ, but of the flesh, legalism, and even spiritual oppression.

“We are surrounded by a great crowd of false witnesses.”
This highlights the reality of facing accusations and misunderstandings from those who falsely speak against others without full knowledge or truth.
“Telegraph, Telegram, Tell a WELP.”
A playful twist on the classic phrase, illustrating how gossip and rumors spread quickly, often with little regard for truth or consequence.
“The Back Whisperers.”
Referring to those who speak ill of others behind their backs, spreading gossip and division within communities.
“Gossip is the poor human’s bread: they love to feast on it.”

Sister Taveau Asks

Please discuss the Pros and Cons of Guarding the Pastor and Minister giving A Biblical Perspective

Chat GPT responds

1. The Biblical Case for Wise Protection

Throughout history, leaders have needed protection—not just physically but spiritually and emotionally. The Bible supports wise discernment and appropriate boundaries to guard ministers from harm, deception, and undue stress.

🔹 Moses’ Appointed Leaders – Exodus 18:21
“Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them, to be rulers.”

🔹 Jesus and His Inner Circle – Matthew 17:1
Jesus had Peter, James, and John as His closest disciples.

🔹 Paul’s Warnings About False Brethren – Galatians 2:4
Paul dealt with spies and infiltrators who sought to bring believers back into bondage.

++ Proper guarding is about protection, not paranoia.

However, many modern ministries take this too far, moving from healthy protection to hyper-control and fear-based elitism.

2. The Danger of Over-Guarding: “Prophetic Paranoia” and Elitist Control

While some ministers wisely appoint trusted individuals to protect the vision, others create unhealthy, cult-like “security teams.” These often include:

+ Unapproachable “Gatekeepers” who decide who is “worthy” of access to leadership.
+ Spiritual Profiling – Judging people without speaking to them but based on appearances, vibes, or hearsay.
+ Selective Favoritism – Preferring some races, backgrounds, or personalities over others.
+“Us vs. Them” Mentality – Viewing outsiders as threats instead of potential brothers and sisters in Christ.
+ Silencing Dissent – Labeling any question or concern as rebellion or a “Jezebel spirit.”

*** This is NOT biblical leadership—it’s control, bias, and sometimes, outright deception.

Apostle T’s POINT
3. Christian Ministry Using Precision to Cause Division: A Biblical Examination

Many ministries today operate with extreme precision, focusing on targeting, scanning, and vetting individuals rather than fostering genuine, Christlike relationships. While wisdom, discernment, and order are biblical, when they become hyper-controlled, exclusionary, and sectarian, they cause division rather than build unity within the Body of Christ.

Below, we address hot topics related to spiritual “targeting,” Christian exclusivity, and sectarian mindsets—offering both perspectives and a biblical response.

1. Precision Targeting in Christian Ministry

The Argument For It

** Spiritual safety – Guarding the flock from false teachings, deception, and harmful influences.
** Ensuring order – A structured system prevents doctrinal confusion and chaos.
** Avoiding spiritual shipwreck – Close monitoring helps prevent “wolves in sheep’s clothing” from causing harm.

The Argument Against It

++ Over-control and spiritual abuse – When leadership uses “scanning” to judge people without relationship.
++ Lack of biblical hospitality – Jesus engaged and invited people, rather than preemptively “targeting” them.
++ Pharisee-like exclusion – Over-scrutinizing creates a sectarian, elitist mindset, isolating people from true community.

Biblical Balance

Acts 2:42-47 – The early church was relational, breaking bread, fellowshipping, and growing together.
Romans 14:1 – “Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.”
James 2:1-4 – Favoritism and selective treatment in the church are condemned.

2. Sectarianism: “We Are the One True Church”

The Argument For It

** Maintaining purity of doctrine – Ensuring biblical teaching remains untainted by modern cultural shifts.
** A remnant theology – Belief that only a small group stays true to God’s original design.
** Faithfulness to calling – Some believe their movement or network is uniquely anointed for end-times ministry.

The Argument Against It

++ Exclusivity breeds division – The Ephesians 4 community calls for unity, not one “true” sect.
++ Legalism and man-made rules – Many “one true churches” impose non-biblical rules and extra regulations.
++ Breaks the universal church model – The Body of Christ is global, not one network, house, or tribe.

Biblical Balance

Ephesians 4:4-6 – “There is one body and one Spirit… one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”
1 Corinthians 1:10-13 – Paul rebuked sectarianism: “Is Christ divided?”
John 17:20-23 – Jesus prayed for unity, not division.

3. The Fear of Outside Influence: “We Must Guard Our Turf”

The Argument For It

** Avoiding infiltration by false teachers or deceivers (2 Peter 2:1).
** Protecting the spiritual atmosphere – Ensuring the congregation is not swayed by worldly influences.
** Preserving the movement’s integrity – Some believe that outside voices could dilute their distinct calling.

The Argument Against It

++ Leads to control, paranoia, and suspicion – Viewing every visitor as a threat is not biblical.
++ Inhibits the work of the Holy Spirit – God moves through diversity and relationships, not controlled environments.
++ Fails to represent Jesus’ ministry model – Jesus openly engaged sinners, Pharisees, and Gentiles alike.

Biblical Balance

Luke 5:30-32 – Jesus ate with sinners rather than scanning and avoiding them.
Hebrews 13:2 – “Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers.”
Matthew 28:19-20 – The Great Commission is outward-focused, not inward-secluded.

4. The “Infiltration” Mindset: Deep Scanners, Watchers, and Man-Monitors

The Argument For It

** Keeping accountability – Ensuring that those who enter the ministry align with its values.
** Guarding the flock from wolves – Not everyone who comes in has good intentions.
** Maintaining spiritual integrity – Some believe “scanning” is a spiritual gift of discernment.

The Argument Against It

++ Unbiblical hyper-surveillance – Jesus never “deep scanned” people before talking with them.
++ Turns the church into a spy agency – Christianity is about love and discipleship, not intelligence gathering.
++ Lacks trust in God’s power – The Holy Spirit convicts and reveals hearts; excessive human control is unnecessary.

Biblical Balance

Matthew 7:1-2 – “Judge not, that you be not judged.”
1 Samuel 16:7 – “Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
John 13:34-35 – Love, not surveillance, is the mark of true discipleship.

Final Conclusion: The Church That Never Closes

The true Revelation 2 church is not defined by sectarianism, paranoia, control, or exclusivity—it is defined by:
** Brotherly, fatherly, motherly, sisterly love
** Welcoming all races, genders, and backgrounds
** Faith-filled, honorable, and Christ-centered values

Warning Against Becoming a Law Unto Ourselves

Ministries that operate as self-contained, isolated, and exclusive groups—claiming to be the only true faith movement—risk becoming cult-like.

What a Healthy Ministry Looks Like

*** Opens doors to all seekers (Matthew 11:28)
*** Disciples through relationship, not control (2 Timothy 2:2)
*** Trusts the Holy Spirit over human surveillance (John 16:13)
*** Focuses on transforming society, not hiding from it (Matthew 5:14-16)

Final Warning: Precision Without Christlike Love Leads to Division

** Healthy Precision = Wise leadership, biblical boundaries, discernment
++Unhealthy Precision = Over-scrutiny, legalism, control, exclusivity

The true Church is neither a bunker nor a fortress—it is a city on a hill (Matthew 5:14).

Not afraid of infiltration, but ready to disciple all who come.
Not sectarian, but united in the faith of Jesus Christ.
Not obsessed with control, but guided by love, wisdom, and the Holy Spirit.

!! “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” (John 13:35)

3. The Occult-Like “Divine” Mind-Reading: A False Seer Culture

+++ Many Caucasian fine arts prophetic groups (since the 1990s) have engaged in unspoken “spiritual screening.” They “assess” newcomers without speaking, relating, or even acknowledging their presence.

+++ This is NOT discernment—this is suspicion, bias, and fear-based control masked as prophecy.

+++ Key signs of an occult-like “seer” culture:

🕵️ People are “scanned” from afar before ever being spoken to.
🚫 Certain people are blacklisted without explanation.
🤐 Ministry cliques form—”the chosen ones” versus “the outsiders.”
🔮 Personal opinions become ‘Thus saith the Lord.’

+++ This resembles Gnosticism (secret knowledge) and occult divination, NOT biblical discernment.

++ Biblical Discernment vs. Occult-like Scanning:

Biblical Discernment	Occult-like Scanning
Based on prayer, love, and relationship	Based on fear, assumption, and secrecy
Seeks to confirm with Scripture	Relies on gut feelings and groupthink
Welcomes people first, discerns later	Judges first, never relates
Encourages growth and repentance	Encourages exclusion and elitism

👑 Jesus personally engaged with people, even sinners—He never “scanned” and dismissed them.

4. What Happens When This “Guarding” Becomes Abusive?

🚫 Good people are falsely accused based on personal bias.
🚫 Racism, classism, and gender bias go unchecked.
🚫 The love of Christ is replaced by paranoia and control.
🚫 The Church becomes divided into “inner circles” and “outsiders.”
🚫 The Holy Spirit is grieved by legalism and false judgment.

📖 Matthew 23:13 – “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.”

🔥 Jesus rebuked this mindset—it’s a religious spirit, not the Holy Spirit.

5. The True Christlike Model: Open, Wise, and Just Leadership

Healthy biblical leadership:
✅ Uses discernment to protect, not exclude.
✅ Welcomes relationship before judgment.
✅ Treats everyone with dignity and fairness.
✅ Rejects divisive, elitist, or occult-like mindsets.

📖 John 10:3-4 – “To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.”

👑 Jesus called people by NAME—not by labels or pre-judgments.

6. Conclusion: True Prophetic Ministry Walks in Love, Not Fear

🚨 If a ministry is more obsessed with “protecting the leader” than loving people, something is deeply wrong.

💡 A real move of God isn’t about
❌ Blocking people out.
❌ Scanning them before speaking.
❌ Making snap judgments.

👑 It’s about
✅ Biblical discernment, not paranoia.
✅ Personal connection, not profiling.
✅ Love over fear.

📖 1 John 4:18 – “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear.”

💬 Final Thought: True prophetic wisdom never builds walls—it builds bridges. Let’s reject fear-based control and embrace the Spirit-led love of Jesus.

TD MAIN POINT: TURF OWNING HIGH CONTRAST
When Leadership Becomes Turf-Owning & Guarding

Paul warned of false teachers and authoritarian leaders who seek control rather than the flourishing of the community.

1. Turf-Owning: Power vs. Pastoring

A true pastor feeds the flock (John 21:17), but a turf-owner guards their territory out of fear, pride, or greed.

Matthew 23:13 – Jesus rebuked the Pharisees: “For ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.”
3 John 9-10 – Diotrephes “loveth to have the preeminence among them”—he rejected outsiders and even cast people out of the church.
1 Timothy 6:5 – Paul warns against men of corrupt minds who see ministry as gain (a business, an empire, a platform).

These leaders do not serve the community; they control it. They build tribes, movements, and brands rather than a Spirit-led family of God.

2. The “Need” Effect of True Community vs. the Damage of Turf Control

True Community (Pauline Model)	Turf-Owning Leadership
Transforms society through love, service, and righteousness.	Protects self-interest and status, ignoring the community’s real needs.
Invites, equips, and sends people to serve and lead.	Restricts, controls, and limits others to keep power.
Seeks God’s Kingdom expansion (Matthew 6:33).	Seeks church brand expansion, numbers, and influence.
Walks in faith—trusts the Spirit to guide the people.	Walks in fear—afraid of “losing” people to other groups.

3. The Call to the Remnant: Flee from Corruption & Stand in the Truth

Paul instructs true believers to stand apart from false authority and hold to the Word of God.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 – In the last days, people will be lovers of themselves, covetous, boasters, high-minded… having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
1 Timothy 6:11-12 – “But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. Fight the good fight of faith…”

When people run away from corrupt movements, it is not a falling away (apostasy) but a cleansing and refining—a remnant choosing holiness over hype, Jesus over showmanship, and the real over the counterfeit.

Conclusion: Christ’s Community is Spirit-Led, Not Man-Controlled

The real Body of Christ is not built on turf, networks, brands, or famous names. It is built on Jesus Christ alone.

1 Corinthians 3:11 – “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”
Colossians 1:18 – “And he (Christ) is the head of the body, the church…”

The apostolic, Holy Spirit-led remnant will reject religious empire-building and return to Christ-centered, Bible-based, Holy Spirit-driven faith.

Let us watch, pray, and stand firm, refusing the games of men and holding to the true, pure gospel of Jesus Christ.

Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.”