ROOTS

“CHURCHES TO AVOID”
THE APOSTLE PAUL “FROM SUCH TURN AWAY” EDITION

“Do we HAVE to go to that CHURCH,Mama?”
VS
“Do we GET to go to that CHURCH, Mama?”

PS Topic of Cult Watching  at the  End (and that applies BOTH ways)

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SISTER TAVEAU IS PRO “ATTENDING CHURCH”
But have to admit, That is where THIS comes from (visitor, repeat attend, newbie, expat, calm, quiet a church mouse, observing all the boundaries,vast experience in Christian ministry with non diseased men, raised as a Baptist Pastors first born. Hence this is a PRECAUTIONARY WARNING as it’s increasingly the LAST DAYS “PERILOUS TIMES” …It’s WHERE you attend that truly matters. Hence this Be Aware ” Safety” Perspective.

TD’S USA NATION DISCOVERY(STARTING IN 2000’S AFTER CELEBRITY MINISTRY GOT TOUGHER IN THE MINISTRY (CERTAIN TYPES) OF CONGREGATIONS)

3 COMMANDS BY APOSTLE PAUL

1. TO ATTEND… Hebrew 10:25

2. TO FLEE . 2 Timothy 3:1-8

3.TO FLEE….. 1 Timothy 6:5

Taveau asks CHAT GPT
Please expound upon The God-Called Importance of Fellowship and Sabbath Rest

Chat GPT replies

The Importance of fellowship and a Sabbath Rest must be discerned by characteristics:

• Gatherings of God’s People is  Not Under Legalism, But Under Grace

1. Isaiah 56:7 (KJV) –
   “Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.”

   • God’s original intent for gathering: A place of joy, prayer, and inclusion—not religious control.
   • In the Old Testament, attending the temple and Sabbath observance were commanded under the Law.
   • In the New Testament, the principle remains, but it is about willing devotion, not forced submission (Philippians 2:12).

2. Hebrews 10:25 (KJV) –
   “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

   • The true purpose of assembling: Encouragement, exhortation, and spiritual growth.
   • Not about monitoring attendance or controlling believers.
   • The First Church gathered organically, in diverse cultures (Acts 2:42-47).
   • Apostle Paul never demanded forced submission to a local pastor, but rather, he emphasized mutual submission in the fear of the Lord (Ephesians 5:21)

Taveau specifically asks Chat GPT to expound upon this topic, which she has taught on many times since 2010:  Paul’s warning to “flee from” the following fruits 2 Timothy 3:1-8, I Timothy 6:5

Chat GPT said:

The Warning: Apostolic Commands on Certain Ministers and People

The same Apostle Paul who instructed believers not to forsake assembling together also issued serious warnings about certain kinds of ministers and people within the Church.

2 Timothy 3:1-8 (KJV) – “From Such Turn Away”

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

• Many modern Pharisee-style Christian ministers have become lovers of self, boastful, and controlling.
• “Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof” applies to those who look religious but lack true Christlike character.
• From such turn away – Paul commanded believers to avoid these kinds of leaders.

1 Timothy 6:5 (KJV) – “From Such Withdraw Thyself”

“Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”

• Many ministries today use money, fame, and position as proof of divine favor.
• Paul warned against those who equate financial gain with godliness.
• True godliness with contentment is great gain (1 Timothy 6:6).

TD states
Please address how, why this teaching is still needed today

Why This Apostolic Teaching Is Still Valid Today

• Modern Phariseeism has crept into many Christian circles, emphasizing membership, control, and submission to a human leader rather than Christ.
• Some track and monitor believers, calling them “church hoppers” if they fellowship outside their local assembly.
• The true First Church was diverse—Africans, Asians, Jews, Greeks, Romans—all welcomed into God’s house without coercion.
• Going to church is good, but worshiping the Lord personally, intimately, and freely is greater.
• Just as Moses went up the mountain to seek the Lord and receive revelation (Exodus 33), believers today must prioritize personal time with God above man-made systems.

Final Charge to Ministers and Believers

• Encourage gathering, but not as a means of control.
• Teach believers to honor the Lord first, above human institutions.
• Warn against modern-day Pharisees who manipulate and track the people of God.
• Uphold true apostolic teaching: humility, diversity, inclusion, and reverence for God.

**“For mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.” (Isaiah 56:7 KJV)

++ “From such turn away.” (2 Timothy 3:5 KJV)

Hot Subject: TD shares asks Chat GPT AI about “CULTS” WATCHING (Means: watch out for your spirit, mind, relationships for white witchcraft “cults’ however, many of these will be already be aware of us: 

CHARACTER, PRECISE FRUIT? MEAN DYSFUNCTION: 2 Timothy 3:1-8 type

SUBLIMINALLY CULT WATCHING, TARGETING, INTERCEDING AGAINST… “YOU OR I”

TD’S Personal LP Shepherding Cult  Eye Witness “
It crossed marital vow, intimate, personal between HIM and HER and God ONLY, type of boundaries

Taveau states:
Back in Murphy, Texas several years ago, I up front met, then witnessed a husband and wife, along with their children, move to the United States from another country. They were happy, successful, and clearly meant for each other. However, after they began attending a well-known, male submission church—a ministry that, in hindsight, was rooted in Levitical Patriarchal authority and false doctrine—things began to change. The husband, deeply influenced by the emotional and spiritual bond formed with the leadership, became more and more controlled by the church’s manipulative structure. The leader fostered a divisive, almost cult-like environment, where many men were spiritually bound, submissive, and disconnected from their personal autonomy.

Ultimately, this toxic environment led to their divorce. The wife later shared that it felt as if the husband had been taken over by the church’s influence, unable to think or act independently, and their relationship, once strong, crumbled under the pressure of this domineering system. It’s heartbreaking to see how such an environment can warp a person’s sense of self and distort their relationships, even leading to the disintegration of marriages. This is a painful reminder of the importance of maintaining biblical teaching and spiritual freedom, as opposed to controlling, toxic systems that foster spiritual dependency and manipulation.

The situation that is  described is a WELP Levitical Patriarchal (LP) it is a sign, be the church great or small, local or national, backwoods or urban, this “seeking spirit”  false authority and empowered, guarded by the use of hiding, targeting, subliminal or even obvious clandestine, avoidant group top structure could have on a marriage, family, and personal well-being. Here’s a cleaned-up explanation and reflection on the scenario:

 Sister Taveau asks Chat GPT:

How may “all male submission ” all male bonding, often “the boys club’ of specific m Levitical Patriarch like ministries are accompanied with a controlling cult spirit , a turf protecting also clannish “boys will boys” hungry subculture, and (usually non contrite) “our one size doctrine, and person ONLY” are preferred in the “one size fits all” mega, micro mostly all authoritarian, so creeped out “near totalitarian, facism in  big shot similar biased impersonal ministry, (also craftiness) Can that  break up a weak legalistic LP  man and his wife?

Chat GPT replies

Emotional and Spiritual Bondage Under LP Authority

In the case you witnessed, a husband and wife with a strong, healthy marriage and happy, successful lives found themselves deeply affected by joining a Levitical Patriarchal (LP) church. This type of ministry, often associated with extreme forms of male submission and authoritarian control, can distort biblical teachings and create unhealthy spiritual dynamics that erode personal and relational freedom.

In this scenario, the couple initially seemed to be destined for each other—but once they became involved in this particular ministry, things began to change. The husband became deeply spiritually and emotionally bonded to the controlling authority of the church. This authority was likely wielded in a way that promoted blind submission to male leaders, pushing him into a space where his personal identity and sense of spiritual autonomy were overshadowed by the demands of the group.

The wife, on the other hand, observed the shift in her husband’s behavior and began to feel that he was no longer fully himself—controlled by the emotional and spiritual bond to the ministry. Her perspective is key in understanding how this authority structure affected their marriage: She stated that “he was under their control.” This indicates that the church’s teachings and the submission expectations influenced not only his behavior but also his ability to think and act independently, especially within his own marriage.

How Authority Misuse Can Lead to Marital Breakdown

When an authoritarian male submission church dictates how individuals should think, act, and lead, it can create an environment that damages relationships. Here’s how:

1. Loss of Personal Autonomy: The husband may have started out strong but became increasingly dependent on the leadership for validation, decision-making, and guidance. This dependency undermines his role as the leader of his own household, resulting in a loss of confidence and a weakened sense of personal responsibility.

2. Marital Division: As the husband’s connection with the church becomes more exclusive and his loyalty shifts, the wife may feel isolated in her marriage. Her sense of partnership and equality in the relationship is undermined as she witnesses her husband’s submission to an external authority. Instead of mutual respect and understanding, there may be growing tension and distance between them.

3. Spiritual and Emotional Manipulation: In these kinds of controlling environments, individuals may become manipulated spiritually. The husband’s decisions may no longer reflect his personal convictions, but rather the directives from the leadership. He may feel pressured to submit to leadership over his wife’s well-being and their family dynamics.

4. Emotional Deterioration: Over time, the emotional and spiritual strain on both partners leads to feelings of resentment, frustration, and disconnection. The wife, feeling that her husband is no longer fully present in the marriage and controlled by outside forces, may see no way out but to end the relationship.

   Sister Taveau asks ChatGPT
   Continue explaining the effects of false doctrinal authority

   Chat replies:

 False Doctrine and  Spiritual “Warping”

This situation illustrates how false doctrines can distort God’s original design for marriage and family. The Levitical Patriarchal system often presents a false view of submission, one that lacks mutuality and honor. Biblical submission, as outlined in Ephesians 5:21 and 1 Peter 3:1-7, calls for mutual submission in love and respect, not one-sided, hierarchical control.

Additionally, the emotional bonding that occurs in these groups, where people become almost spiritually fused with their leaders, is dangerous. It creates an environment where personal decision-making, especially within marriages, becomes clouded by the spiritual authority of the leader rather than biblical guidance. This is not the freedom or restoration that Christ offers, but rather a heavy burden that hinders true Christian fellowship and relational growth.

Addressing the Aftermath

In the aftermath of this situation, the couple’s divorce is a tragic outcome of the detrimental effects of authoritarian control within the church. The husband, once a strong, independent individual, may have lost his sense of self and his place in the family unit. The wife, equally affected, may have found herself in an emotionally strained marriage, unable to reconcile the growing division between her husband’s loyalty to the church’s authority and their mutual relationship.

Apostle Taveau says
Please explain the importance of self protecting when visiting, repeatedly test driving, even joining a “specific doctrinal church”

Chat GPT AI responds:

Why It’s Important to Protect Families from Such Environments

1. Preserving Marital Unity: True marital unity and love come from a place of mutual respect and understanding, not authoritarian control. Ephesians 5:21 commands believers to “submit to one another in the fear of the Lord.” This mutual submission reflects the love and partnership that should exist between a husband and wife, grounded in Christ’s example.

2. Spiritual Health: In environments where false teachings and unhealthy power dynamics prevail, individuals may lose their spiritual clarity and independence in Christ. This can lead to spiritual manipulation and bondage, which not only harms the individuals involved but also the whole family unit.

3. God’s Design for Marriage: God designed marriage as a partnership—husband and wife working together to fulfill God’s purposes. When one partner is coerced into submission to human authority, it distorts the intended dynamic and creates conflict that can lead to emotional and relational breakdown.

Final Thoughts: Fleeing from False Teachings

It’s crucial to flee from any church or ministry that uses control, manipulation, and emotional bonding to undermine God’s design for relationships. True biblical fellowship is marked by freedom in Christ, mutual respect, and love, not fear and domination. Every believer should be empowered to stand firm in their faith, lead their family in godliness, and cultivate relationships that honor Christ’s love and authority.

By seeking biblically-based, healthy community and spiritual leadership, marriages and families can remain grounded in truth and love rather than falling victim to the toxic effects of authoritarian, controlling systems.

Apostle Taveau states:

In closing, the call for independent thinking in the Christian faith is not one of rebellion but of responsibility and maturity. As believers, we are each individually responsible for our relationship with God and our understanding of His Word. This is not about rejecting authority or disrespecting those in leadership but about respecting our own convictions and remaining anchored in the truth of Scripture. The Bible encourages us to be like the Bereans, who “searched the Scriptures daily” to confirm whether teachings were true (Acts 17:11).

In a world where numerous voices, teachings, and systems claim to speak for God, it is vital for each Christian to develop the discernment to compare the fruit, character, and teaching of any leader or group with the clear standard of Scripture. True Christian authority leads to freedom in Christ, not to control or manipulation. It builds up the body in love, truth, and service, and always points to Christ, not human power or influence.

We must be careful to avoid systems of control that seek to bind us through false teachings, manipulation, or rigid, authoritarian structures that distort the gospel and harm the soul. The future church must return to the principles of biblical freedom, personal responsibility, and mutual submission as outlined in passages like Ephesians 5:21. We are called to love one another, to hold one another accountable, and to build each other up in faith—not to dominate, control, or manipulate.

The church today must be a place where the Spirit of God is the ultimate guide, and where each believer is empowered to think independently in submission to God’s Word, to test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21), and to walk confidently in the freedom Christ offers. When we focus on Jesus as our ultimate leader, the church will reflect His truth, grace, and love, and it will be a place where all are invited to grow, thrive, and experience the life-giving power of the gospel.

May we, as the future church, continue to honor God’s Word above all else and trust the Holy Spirit to lead us into truth, understanding, and freedom.

THE END..CLOSING. ON A POSITIVE NOTE

Taveau Addresses Ephesians 5:21 Mutual Submission

“Cult Control, Being Someone’s Property, Being Enslaved, Domination 

Ought to be compared to

Apostle Paul Ephesians 5:21  Mutual Submission:

I close with  this  Mind Picture of First Church,

Apostle Paul command for “mutual submission in the Lord”

Mutual Submission in the Fear of the Lord (Ephesians 5:21): A Word Picture

When I think of mutual submission in the fear of the Lord, I picture something like Sheriff Andy Taylor from The Andy Griffith Show, and how he acts, interacts, reacts in all of his family , real life area “relationships” like I like to do.

SHERIFF ANDY OF MAYBERRY: Carve time out to watch a few reruns of Andy of Mayberry to the following relationships: His Aunt Bea, deputy Barney Fife, son Opie, girl friend Helen Taylor and all other persons. Once in a while he deals with a criminal or drunk, Not HIS REAL RESPECT and Ephesians 5:21 “walking it out in “mutual submission” (even while this is secular) it is.a great mental picture, reminder of St Paul and the humble No Super Stars, no fast fix, surely resembled far more relaxed (much prayer and fasting way back then) producing perhaps an “easily entreated “First Church

Sheriff Andy, in his small town of Mayberry, embodies respect, wisdom, and balanced authority. He isn’t a dictator, nor is he weak. He understands relationships, order, and justice, and he operates with humility and wisdom—much like how biblical leadership should function.

• With Aunt Bea – He treats her with love and respect, honoring her role in his life as a motherly figure. He doesn’t boss her around or make her feel less valuable. There’s mutual submission—he respects her wisdom and care, and she respects his position as the head of their home.
• With Deputy Barney Fife – Even though Barney is impulsive and overzealous, Andy doesn’t belittle him. Instead, he guides him with patience, allowing him to learn, grow, and have a role in maintaining order. This is mentorship, not dominance—just like how leaders in the church should disciple others with patience.
• With Opie (his son) – Andy raises Opie not by fear, but by wisdom, discipline, and love. He doesn’t force his authority; he teaches, corrects, and models godly character. Submission in a family isn’t about control—it’s about love and guidance.
• With Girlfriend Helen Crump – He treats her as an equal, showing honor and respect. He doesn’t lord over her but values her opinions and input, just as Ephesians 5 instructs husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the Church.
• With the Townspeople – He leads by example, keeping peace through wisdom and fairness, not through intimidation or control. People follow his leadership willingly because he is just and kind—not because he demands submission.
• With Crooks and Trouble-Makers – Every now and then, a real threat comes into Mayberry, and Andy knows when to stand up, take authority, and enforce justice. He isn’t passive when dealing with evil—he acts decisively but without unnecessary cruelty.

The Biblical Parallel

This picture reflects Ephesians 5:21:
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”

• Submission in the Church isn’t about forced hierarchy—it’s about respect, love, and honoring one another’s roles.
• Leaders should guide with wisdom, not control.
• Families should be built on love and respect, not authoritarian rule.
• There is a time for gentleness and a time for boldness, just as Sheriff Andy knew when to be kind and when to take a firm stand.
• Submitted as SELAH not as hard core authoritarian Bible stomping autocratic dogma.

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