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PART 16 TROUBLING THE CHRISTIAN PATRIARCHY
ADAM AND EVE PRIOR TO THE PATRIARCHY
More Adam and Eve, Plus the Evolution from “Relationships” in the Garden to the Christian Patriarchy
“Where can you go where the Lord is not there?” **
**Hopefully this includes the local Christian ministry fellowship
Also, we all acknowledge “That where 2 or 3 are gathered in His Name “He is there”**
**But… WHO brings in the ministry negative bias, the tale bearing , the respecter of persons religious spirit? and the submission Law, evil eye witch like control, and ministry pressure to conform?
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First, I, Taveau state my own apostolic theories about the following Prior to the Strict Religious Ministry Patriarchy.But it is deep,historical, Christian yet based on God’s Love and His direct commands given Moses and His people: The 10 Commandments, also Old Testament Torah Love Chat GPT AI
Taveau sates:In this part 16, I want to examine this big Bible SUBJECT .I will ask Chat GPT AI to expound using KJV and Greek , Hebrew, Aramaic, if, when, where it is needed, and to look at Genesis 1-2 Pre Garden Sin, Before the Carnal Choices and the Human Fall.
Then I attempt to make the second point: Each one of the mentioned Bible “life” RELATIONSHIPS. I note these in Genesis 1-2 as the First God and created human person were fellowshipping in a “calm, pleasant, ‘relationship’ ( “walking and talking daily” in the cool of the day… Creator Father God fellowshipping (relating) one to one, with Adam.
Later after Eve’s formation, then God fellowshipped** directly with Adam and eventually, also with Eve, and Adam and Eve as a couple (** this reminds me of Genesis 5 Enoch(after the garden fall), which is prophetic of many right now in Book of Acts, Christian days.
Make my major point: in Genesis 1, we note that before Eve was formed how God first hand instructed, his first man, Adam to ” not eat of that ONE, the knowledge of Good and evil”
Also make this Big Point: In light modern day Christian teaching, we point out that NOBODY except Creator and Adam were where when God first gave the command ..Eve was not yet formed. POINT BEING: That Adam heard God’s clear instructions, and nobody (Eve) was there to distract Adam from hearing God clearly: This means that later, in Genesis 3 God would go directly to Adam, not Eve,even though she is recorded as the first one who ate the forbidden fruit. God would value his first relationship with Adam, but also hold “directly accountable” not Eve.(for God called out “Adam, where are you?”
More later, for this that happens in Genesis 3.
My Modern Day Science, also Relationship, viewpoint: God and Adam related. But Adam was lonely for someone to be with in human form (My submitted view) SO God caused Adam auto sleep While He was asleep God formed EVE woman out of Adam’s side (rib/) which in modern day Science means “Eve was formed from his DNA and is equal and valid, deserves same respect and merit as the man., but do explain the “men women differences)
THEN THIS LENGTHY FACT FILLED ARTICLED WILL TAKE A SHIFT
For, after that, I ask Chat GPT about “the evolution from the Garden,to the huge Fall…stumbling along to the formation of Jewish Nation Torah Law,the ancient Hebrew patriarchs…but then slowly comes the Church, but then through out history arises the Christian Ministry “patriarchy”
HERE THIS PART 16 OFFICIALLY BEGINS:
Taveau asks Chat GPT about
Genesis 1-2 Describe bible relationships from then, later on discuss the development of what I now name as the Christian patriarchy (where did it first originate? )
Chat GPT responds:
Examining the Big Bible Subject: Genesis 1–2 — Relationships Before the Fall
Introduction
Before the Fall in Genesis 3, there was perfect harmony between God, man, and creation. Life itself was designed as RELATIONSHIP—first between God and Adam, then between Adam and Eve, and onward to all creation. Genesis chapters 1 and 2 reveal God’s divine relational design before sin, setting a timeless pattern for understanding human dignity, equality, and purpose.
In this study, we will explore the first divine relationship between Adam and the Creator Father God, and then the introduction of Eve. We will reference the KJV Bible, including insights from Hebrew and Greek where helpful, and apply this to understanding the equality of men and women, while respecting their unique design differences
I. Adam and God: The First Divine Relationship
Before Eve was created, Adam enjoyed direct, undistracted fellowship with the Lord God. Genesis 2:16-17 (KJV) records:
“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Big Point:
At this time, no other human was present to distract Adam from hearing God’s instruction clearly. This demonstrates how personal, direct, and relational God is with humanity. The Hebrew word for “commanded” here is צָוָה (tsavah) meaning “to appoint, direct, give charge.”
Adam lived in God’s full presence, walking in the Spirit, fully aware of his Creator without interference. However, God Himself noted something missing.
II. Adam’s Need for Human Relationship
Genesis 2:18 (KJV) says:
“And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”
The Hebrew for “help meet” is עֵזֶר כְּנֶגְדּוֹ (ezer kenegdo), meaning “a helper corresponding to him, equal and adequate.”
Submitted Viewpoint:
While Adam had deep relationship with God, there was a God-designed need for human companionship—someone “like him,” yet complementary. Thus, God caused Adam to fall into a deep sleep:
“And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.”
(Genesis 2:21)
The Hebrew for “rib” is צֵלָע (tsela), which can mean side or part of the body, implying Eve was not taken from Adam’s foot to be under him, nor from his head to rule over him, but from his side to walk with him, as his equal partner
III. Eve: Formed from Adam, Equal and Distinct
Modern Understanding:
Sister Taveau’s major apostolic point: with modern day science, we now understand this:
From a scientific viewpoint, we now understand that DNA resides within every cell of the body. By taking from Adam’s own body, God used the very essence of humanity to create Eve, ensuring shared humanity, equal worth, and mutual respect.
Men and Women Differences:
While equal in worth, men and women are uniquely designed with distinct strengths and roles, often complementing one another:
- Adam (אָדָם – ‘adam) meaning “man” or “humanity”, was formed from the dust (adamah – ground).
- Eve (חַוָּה – Chavvah) meaning “life” or “living,” because she became the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20).
Their differences were never intended for domination, control, or superiority but to reflect the full image of God (Genesis 1:27):
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
IV. Relationship Blueprint
Genesis 1–2 gives us God’s original intent for human relationships:
- First Relationship: God and Adam (individual communion, direct communication).
- Second Relationship: Adam and Eve (equal partnership, mutual support).
This establishes the foundation that “all life is relationships”—with God, others, and creation.
Takeaway for Today
God’s original plan was not hierarchy, oppression, or imbalance but unity, mutual respect, and shared purpose. Even in the differences between men and women, Genesis 1–2 reveals God’s heart for equal value and dignity.
This truth leads us forward into New Testament teachings like Ephesians 5:21 (KJV):
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”
From the very beginning, God’s design has been relationship—pure, respectful, and holy—free from bias, control, and domination.
NEXT Taveau says:
Please review the Genesis 1-2 via mature respect for all Relationships
Chat GPT replies:
Genesis 1–2: Pre-Garden Sin, the Carnal Human Fall, and the Relationship Design of God
“All Life Is Relationships”
In studying Genesis 1–2 (KJV), we see God’s original, perfect design for humanity before sin entered the world. The foundation of life was relationship—first with God, then with others. Before any failure, before temptation, and before the Fall, the first man, Adam, experienced a divine relationship with his Creator, God the Father.
1️ The First Divine Relationship: Adam and His God
Before Eve was created, Adam had only God. This was the first relationship on Earth—a direct, undistracted, personal relationship between the Creator and the man He formed.
Genesis 2:16-17 (KJV)
“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Key Hebrew Notes:
- LORD God – YHWH Elohim (יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים): Emphasizing both God’s covenant nature (YHWH) and His supreme power as Creator (Elohim).
- Commanded – Tsavah (צָוָה): A clear, authoritative directive.
- Die – Mot tamut (מוֹת תָּמוּת): Literally, “dying you shall die,” pointing to both immediate spiritual death and eventual physical death.
Big Point:
At this moment in creation, nobody else was present to distract Adam. There were no other voices, no competing relationships, and no external influences. He heard God’s command clearly and directly.
The relationship was simple: God spoke. Adam listened. Their communion was unhindered.
2️Adam’s Loneliness: The First “Not Good”
Even though Adam had perfect fellowship with God, there was something incomplete. God Himself observed this and made a declaration:
Genesis 2:18 (KJV)
“And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”
Key Hebrew Notes:
- Not good – Lo tov (לֹא־טוֹב): The first time God declares something in creation as “not good.”
- Help meet – Ezer kenegdo (עֵזֶר כְּנֶגְדּוֹ): Literally, “a helper corresponding to him” or “a counterpart facing him.” This implies equality, partnership, and complementarity.
Relationship Viewpoint:
Though Adam had relationship with God, he was designed to also need human companionship. In my submitted view, Adam may have longed for someone like himself—a companion in human form. God, seeing this, provided the perfect solution.
3️ The Creation of Eve: Equal and Valid
To meet Adam’s need, God performed the first surgery. Adam was placed into a deep sleep, and out of his own body, God formed woman.
Genesis 2:21-22 (KJV)
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.”
Key Hebrew Notes:
- Rib – Tsela (צֵלָע): Often translated as “side,” suggesting not just a single bone but part of his very structure or being.
- Made – Banah (בָּנָה): Meaning “built” or “fashioned,” implying careful design and craftsmanship.
Modern Reflection:
In modern scientific understanding, we might say Eve was formed from Adam’s DNA, highlighting that she was:
- Equal in essence.
- Of the same substance.
- Worthy of equal respect and honor.
Eve was not inferior. She was not an afterthought. She was a partner, designed specifically to complete what was lacking.
4️ Men and Women: Differences with Purpose
Although man and woman are equal in value, Scripture highlights complementary differences.
Genesis 1:27 (KJV)
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
Hebrew Word Meanings:
- Male – Zakar (זָכָר): Root meaning “to remember” or “to be marked,” often associated with roles of initiation, protection, and strength.
- Female – Neqevah (נְקֵבָה): Root meaning “to perforate” or “to receive,” reflecting a role of receptivity, nurture, and life-bearing.
Distinct but Complementary Roles:
Role of Man | Role of Woman |
---|---|
Initiator and protector | Nurturer and life-bearer |
Outward focus (tilling, guarding) | Relational focus (helper, supporter) |
Physical strength | Emotional and relational strength |
Together, male and female reflect the full image of God in different but harmonizing ways. Neither is superior. Neither is complete alone. Both are necessary for God’s design to function fully.
Conclusion: God’s Blueprint for Relationships
Genesis 1–2 reveals that God’s creation was built on relationships:
- Vertical relationship with God.
- Horizontal relationship with others.
- Unity between man and woman, without competition or domination.
Before sin, Adam and Eve stood as equals—partners created in perfect harmony. Their design reminds us that all life is relationships:
Relationship with God,
Relationship with others,
And relationship with creation.
.The Scene Prior to Sin (Pre Sin, No Governing Law) GENESIS 1-2.
Sister Taveau says:
In light of now, the many horrible people, the pain
pain, suffering, identify confusion, even ministry or governing order. Let us examine WHY
I asked Chat GPT about this:
Nothing is said in any of this about pain, suffering, loss, bias, headship, order, rule..nor is there malformities and identify confusion, even ministry or governing order. Let us examine WHY ….Bible -First Church, Law-Christ, Paul and now
Chat GPT states:
Here’s an expanded version that examines pain, suffering, loss, bias, headship, order, rule, malformations, identity confusion, ministry, and governing order—from Genesis to the First Church, the Law to Christ, Paul to now.
The Original Design vs. The Aftermath of the Fall: Headship, Order, Rule & Identity in Biblical Context
Introduction
Genesis 1–2 presents a world of order, harmony, and divine relationship before sin entered. There was no pain, suffering, bias, hierarchy, or gender confusion—only God’s pure design. But Genesis 3 introduces a profound shift, affecting human identity, leadership, relationships, and governing order. This shift echoes from the Old Testament Law to Christ, from Paul’s teachings to the Church today.
To understand how these issues—headship, rule, suffering, disorder, and governance—came about, we must examine what changed after sin entered the world.
I. The Genesis Blueprint: Before the Fall (Genesis 1–2)
1. Perfect Design Without Bias or Struggle
Before sin, human relationships were based on:
- Direct communion with God (Genesis 2:15-17).
- Mutual honor between man and woman (Genesis 2:23-24).
- No dominance, hierarchy, or oppression.
God established order, but not oppressive rule:
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
(Genesis 1:27 KJV)
The Hebrew phrase “image of God” (צֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים, tzelem Elohim) applies equally to male and female, signifying equal worth, purpose, and dignity.
- At this stage:
No pain, suffering, or loss.
No bias or imbalance in leadership.
No malformations or identity confusion—each creation had distinct form and purpose.
II. The Fall: Sin Introduces Pain, Loss, and Struggle (Genesis 3)
1. The Root of Suffering & Oppression
After Adam and Eve sinned, everything shifted:
- Separation from God → Spiritual Death.
- Pain in childbirth (Genesis 3:16) → Physical suffering.
- Toil and struggle in work (Genesis 3:17-19) → Loss & hardship.
- Broken male-female relationships → The introduction of rulership and dominance.
“…thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
(Genesis 3:16 KJV)
The Hebrew word for “rule” (מָשַׁל, mashal) means to dominate, govern, or have authority over.
BIG NOTE: This was a consequence of sin, NOT God’s original plan.
Before the Fall, Adam and Eve were partners—but after sin, male rulership over women became the human default.
2. Why Is There Identity Confusion & Physical Malformations?
Sin did not only impact relationships—it affected creation itself:
“For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.”
(Romans 8:22 KJV)
This includes:
- Genetic disorders & physical malformations (effects of a fallen world).
- Identity confusion (spiritual and psychological fragmentation due to sin).
- Corrupt leadership structures (power abuse in homes, churches, and nations).
The Fall distorted God’s perfect design, but did not erase God’s image in humanity.
III. From the Law to Christ: Restoring Order & Relationship
1. The Old Testament: Governing Under the Law
In the Old Testament, law and structure were introduced to manage fallen human behavior, including:
- Priesthood & Sacrifices (Leviticus) → A system to approach a holy God.
- Civil & Moral Laws (Exodus-Deuteronomy) → Governing society with justice.
- Male Leadership Norms → Due to the Fall, men dominated governing roles.
Yet, throughout the Old Testament, God raised up women leaders (Deborah, Huldah, Esther, etc.), proving He still called and used both men and women in leadership.
2. Jesus Christ: Restoring God’s Order Without Bias
When Jesus came, He challenged the effects of the Fall by:
- Healing sickness (reversing physical consequences of sin).
Honoring women openly (restoring their place in ministry & leadership).
Preaching mutual submission & servant leadership (Mark 10:42-45).
Christian Big Point :
Christ never endorsed the oppression of women,race, or people group, or faith, by either hierarchy for dominance, or gender bias.
NEW SUBJECT: Compare This with Genesis 1-2 Garden
Subculture Big Christian Shift: Send In the Ministry Patriarchy
Taveau Inquires of Chat GPT AI
Where Did Patriarchy and Authoritarianism Enter the First Church?
Were Jesus, the First 12 Apostles, and the Early Church Patriarchal?
Chat GPT Answers
A Short answer:
No, not in the fallen, dominating, “The Patriarchy” sense.
But yes, culturally, they lived in a male-led society (Hebrew, Roman, Greek)—so it looked patriarchal on the outside.
BUT… Christ’s Kingdom model and the First Church broke from the Levitical, rigid patriarchal systems by establishing:
- Servant leadership (Mark 10:42-45).
- Mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21).
- Holy Spirit-empowered community where all gifts, male and female, Jew and Gentile, slave and free were valid (Galatians 3:28).
Patriarchal Subculture vs. Kingdom Culture
✖️ What is “The Patriarchy”?
As you’re describing, it’s a fallen, man-made system of control where:
- Men dominate.
- Power is held by a few.
- Gender, status, and hierarchy determine who is “important.”
- It uses titles, order, hierarchy, and rules to keep control.
✖️ What is Levitical Patriarchy?
In the Old Testament, under Mosaic Law, there was a priestly male order (Levitical priests, tribes, genealogies).
- Men only served as priests.
- Leadership was through family lineage.
- Women had limited public roles.
Q. But what did Jesus and the First Church do?
They fulfilled the Law (Matthew 5:17) and introduced SERVANT leadership:
“But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister.” (Mark 10:43, KJV)
Key traits of Jesus’ and the First Apostles’ leadership:
Levitical Patriarchy (Old Law) | Jesus’ New Covenant Model |
---|---|
Male-only priests | Both men and women operating in gifts (Acts 2:17-18) |
Top-down hierarchy | Mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21) |
Order through bloodline | Order through the Holy Spirit |
Temple system and sacrifices | Body of Christ as the temple |
National law-based system | Global, Spirit-led family |
Did the 12 Apostles function as “The Patriarchy”?
NO.
They were not gathering to dominate, control, or make tribes, cliques, or brand empires.
They were:
- Sent ones (Greek apostolos: “one sent on a mission”).
- Servants.
- Community builders.
- Willing to suffer and die for Christ and others.
- Equippers of others (including women like Priscilla, Phoebe, Junia).
Ephesians 5:21 – The Antidote to “The Patriarchy”
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.” (Ephesians 5:21)
What does this mean?
- Mutual respect.
- No dominating each other.
- No celebrity over common believer.
- No cliques or insider-only “clubs.”
- Honor across genders, ages, races, backgrounds.
Paul was directly undoing the cultural patriarchal norms of Rome, Greece, and even portions of Hebrew tradition.
ORIGIN IN THE FIRST CHURCH ERA:
Authoritarian, patriarchal, and totalitarian attitudes began creeping in after:
- The original apostles started dying (around 70–100 AD).
- Fear of false doctrine and persecution made leaders want control and order.
- Gentile converts brought Roman, Greek, and hierarchical cultural habits into church structure (Romans had emperors, generals, and rulers).
- The early house church model shifted toward institutional buildings with set offices and ranks, resembling government systems.
- By 300 AD, with Constantine’s Roman Empire “Christianization,” the church became entangled with state power, hierarchy, and official titles—leading to bishop over region, pope over bishops, etc.
WHAT CAUSED IT THEN?
- Fear of losing control.
- Fear of heresy.
- Desire for worldly power and recognition.
- Importing pagan, Roman, and Greek leadership models into spiritual life.
- Shifting from Holy Spirit leading to human governance.
WHAT CAUSES IT NOW?
- Same root fears: loss of control, influence, or finances.
- Celebrity culture: famous pastors, prophets, apostles seeking followers and platforms.
- Business models applied to ministry: branding, franchising, monetization.
- Lack of Ephesians 5:21 mutual submission.
- Ignoring Jesus’ servant leader model (Mark 10:42-45).
- Copying worldly systems: corporate boards, hierarchies, titles used for domination.
Bottom Line:
Authoritarianism in church arises anytime fear, greed, pride, or worldly influence replace humility, service, and Holy Spirit guidance.
Clarification: How Roman and Hellenistic Influence Brought Authoritarianism into the Early Church
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