
MINISTRY AI AND I
PART 4 OF 5 THE CATHOLICS COMPARED TO BIBLE, JESUS, FIRST CHURCH
First Section:”The Catholic Ordinances,Deep Doctrines”
Second Section: Add in the Ministry Comparison The Greek Orthodoxy
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Future Church intended comments: Surely this article, the entire mini series, does not go deeply or thoroughly enough, however it does stimulate realistic thought. I plan to cover Orthodoxy, the certain mostly “papal” forms of the charismatic movement, even touch a tad on what was the ‘protestant reform in the last part of this THE CATHOLICS non biased series.
NOTE: Next series of complementary articles. …Following that I will describe what I have named as the Christian “Levitical Patriarachy” (my Alexander the Coppersmith elite, heightened anti unknown woman..nightmare WELP Western European Levitical Patriarchism, L Matriarchism) enormous mostly fine arts patriachian “aware” subculture…which is in most normal grass roots groups move, both speaking in tongues born again or not. It is in politics, secular, business but I only call attention to it as is relates to Hebrews 10:25 “attending the local church” MORE LATER in depth on this GIANT phenomenon and historical ministry and usually turf guarding leadership, squire subculture (Esquire Roman Patricianism)

With that stated, now we begin to inquire of Chat GPT AI:
FIRST SECTION: Dr Taveau asks Chat GPT AI:
Please delve deeply into the First Church and Major Catholic Doctrines
Chat GPT AI respectfully replied:
Let’s examine these doctrines in historical context and compare them to Jesus’ teachings, the First Church, and the Bible:
The Deep Dive into Three Key Catholic Doctrines:
Mary, Sacraments, and the Papacy
1. Mary: Biblical Mother of Jesus vs. Catholic Teachings
A. What the Bible Teaches About Mary
Mary was chosen to be the mother of Jesus (Luke 1:28-38), but the Bible does not present her as a co-mediator, sinless, or a perpetual virgin.
- Respected but not worshiped – She was blessed among women, not above them (Luke 1:42).
- Not sinless – She calls God her Savior (Luke 1:47), meaning she needed saving from sin.
- Had other children – Jesus had brothers and sisters (Mark 6:3, Matthew 13:55-56).
- No special role after Jesus’ ascension – The apostles never prayed to her.
B. Catholic Doctrines About Mary (Not Found in the Bible)
Doctrine |
Year Introduced |
Biblical Support? |
Perpetual Virginity (Mary had no other children) |
381 AD |
No (Matthew 1:25, Mark 6:3) |
Sinless (Immaculate Conception) |
1854 AD |
No (Romans 3:23) |
Assumption (Taken to heaven without dying) |
1950 AD |
No (No mention in Scripture) |
Mary as Mediatrix & Advocate |
1891 AD |
No (1 Timothy 2:5) |
C. First Church vs. Catholic View
- First Church honored Mary as Jesus’ mother but never prayed to her.
- Catholicism elevated Mary to a role like Jesus, calling her “Queen of Heaven” (a title also used for a pagan goddess in Jeremiah 7:18).
Final Thought: The Bible teaches that only Jesus mediates between God and humans (1 Timothy 2:5).
2. Sacraments: Jesus’ Teachings vs. Catholic Sacramental System
Catholicism teaches seven sacraments that supposedly give grace when performed by a priest.
- Baptism
- Eucharist (Communion)
- Confirmation
- Penance (Confession to a priest)
- Marriage
- Holy Orders (Ordination of priests)
- Anointing of the Sick
A. The Bible Teaches Only Two Ordinances
Jesus and the apostles only established two symbolic practices:
- Baptism – Public declaration of faith (Matthew 28:19).
- The Lord’s Supper – Remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice (Luke 22:19-20).
B. Differences Between Catholic Sacraments and the Bible
Catholic Sacrament |
Catholic Teaching |
Biblical Teaching |
Baptism |
Necessary for salvation (CCC 1257) |
Symbol of faith, not salvation (Romans 10:9) |
Eucharist |
The bread & wine become Jesus’ real body & blood (CCC 1374) |
Symbolic remembrance (1 Corinthians 11:24-25) |
Confession |
Sins must be confessed to a priest (CCC 1461) |
We confess directly to God (1 John 1:9) |
Anointing of the Sick |
Gives grace for salvation (CCC 1520) |
For prayer and healing (James 5:14-15) |
C. The First Church vs. Catholic View
- First Church: Salvation is by faith in Jesus alone (Ephesians 2:8-9).
- Catholic Church: Sacraments are necessary for grace and performed by priests.
Final Thought: The First Church did not have a priesthood performing rituals—it emphasized personal faith in Christ.
3. The Papacy: The Pope’s Role vs. Biblical Church Leadership
The Catholic Church claims:
- Peter was the first pope.
- The Pope is the Vicar of Christ (earthly representative of Jesus).
- The Pope has infallibility when making official declarations (ex cathedra).
A. Did Peter Have Supreme Authority?
- Jesus did not establish a pope – He said “Do not be called Rabbi, for One is your Teacher, the Christ” (Matthew 23:8-10).
- Peter was not above the other apostles – Paul confronted him when he was wrong (Galatians 2:11-14).
- Peter never acted as a pope – He called himself a fellow elder (1 Peter 5:1).
B. The “Rock” of Matthew 16:18 – Greek Analysis
- “You are Peter (Πέτρος, Petros, masculine), and on this rock (πέτρα, petra, feminine) I will build my church.”
- Petros = small stone; Petra = large rock/mass.
- The Rock is Christ, not Peter (1 Corinthians 10:4).
C. History of the Papacy (Not Found in the Bible)
Doctrine |
Year Introduced |
Biblical Support? |
Peter as First Pope |
600 AD |
No (Galatians 2:11) |
Pope as Christ’s Representative |
1198 AD |
No (John 14:26 – Holy Spirit is Christ’s representative) |
Papal Infallibility |
1870 AD |
No (Romans 3:23 – All have sinned) |
D. First Church vs. Catholic View
- First Church: Leadership was shared among multiple elders (Acts 14:23).
- Catholic Church: A single man (Pope) rules all churches worldwide.
Final Thought: The Bible teaches Christ is the head of the Church (Ephesians 5:23), not the Pope.
Final Comparison: First Church vs. Catholic Church
Doctrine |
First Church (Bible-Based) |
Catholic Church (Tradition-Based) |
Mary |
Respected as Jesus’ mother |
Sinless, Queen of Heaven, prayed to |
Salvation |
By faith in Jesus alone (Ephesians 2:8-9) |
Faith + works + sacraments (CCC 2068) |
Confession |
Directly to God (1 John 1:9) |
To a priest (CCC 1456) |
Eucharist |
Symbolic (1 Corinthians 11:24-25) |
Becomes Jesus’ real body (CCC 1374) |
Church Leadership |
Elders & deacons (Acts 14:23) |
Pope & bishops rule (CCC 882) |
Authority |
Bible is final authority (2 Timothy 3:16) |
Pope, tradition, & Bible (CCC 82) |
Conclusion: Did Catholicism Change from the First Church?
Yes. Over centuries, the Catholic Church added traditions that the First Church never practiced.
- The Bible teaches that Jesus alone is our mediator, savior, and leader.
- The First Church focused on faith in Christ, not sacraments, popes, or traditions.

CHRISTIAN CAPSULE REPRISE:
This is a small repeat of what has been asked before:
REPEAT:
TD asks Chat GPT AI to specifically address any Catholic doctrine that may have been missed by any reader.
Chat GPT AI humbly replies:
1. The Authority of the Pope vs. Jesus’ Headship:
- In the Catholic Church, the Pope is regarded as the vicar of Christ, the supreme earthly authority. This contrasts with the biblical teaching that Jesus is the sole head of the church (Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:18), and that all believers, under Christ’s authority, are equal in standing before Him.
2. The Sacraments and Salvation:
- Catholicism teaches that salvation is accessed through the sacraments, including baptism, Eucharist, and penance. The First Church understanding, as seen in the New Testament, focuses on faith in Jesus Christ and grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:28). These differing views on salvation are a key point of doctrinal divergence.
3. The Role of Tradition and Scripture:
- The Catholic Church holds to Sacred Tradition alongside Sacred Scripture as co-authoritative, which means that their interpretation of doctrine is not solely based on the Bible but also on centuries of tradition. The First Church (as Paul instructed in 2 Timothy 3:16-17) teaches that Scripture alone is the authority for faith and practice.
4. Mary and the Saints:
- In Catholic theology, Mary and the saints are venerated and often seen as intercessors between believers and God. However, the Bible teaches that there is only one mediator between God and man, and that is Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5).

SECOND SECTION: THE ORTHODOXY
Introducing the Greek Orthodox into Christian History
Taveau asks Chat GPT AI:
Please discuss early Christian history. Then contrast the Bible, Jesus in Greek Orthodox VS Catholic church
Chat GPT AI sensitively replies:
Early Christian History:
The First Church vs. Catholic and Greek Orthodox Traditions
To understand the differences between Jesus’ teachings, the First Church, Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy, let’s explore:
- The First Church (33–100 AD)
- The Development of Catholic and Orthodox Traditions
- Key Differences Between the Bible, Greek Orthodoxy, and Catholicism
1. The First Church (33–100 AD) – Biblical Christianity
A. What Did Jesus and the Apostles Establish?
- Jesus preached salvation by faith (John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9).
- No official “church organization”—early believers met in homes (Acts 2:46, Romans 16:5).
- Leadership was shared among elders (πρεσβύτεροι, presbyteroi) and deacons (διάκονοι, diakonoi) (Titus 1:5, Acts 14:23).
- No hierarchical structure—no “Pope,” no “Patriarch,” no official “clergy.”
B. What Did the First Christians Believe?
- Authority of Scripture – The apostles taught that God’s Word was the final authority (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Corinthians 4:6).
- Baptism as a symbol – Representing death and resurrection, not a work for salvation (Romans 6:3-4).
- The Lord’s Supper (Communion) as symbolic – Done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice (1 Corinthians 11:24-25).
- Jesus as the only mediator between God and humans (1 Timothy 2:5).
C. Early Persecution (100–313 AD)
- Christians were hunted by Rome for refusing to worship the emperor.
- Many leaders like Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp were martyred.
- By 313 AD, Christianity had no central human leader—it was still a network of independent churches.
2. The Rise of Catholicism and Orthodoxy
A. When Did Christianity Split into Catholic and Orthodox?
- In 313 AD, Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity (Edict of Milan).
- In 325 AD, Constantine organized the Council of Nicaea, where bishops began to gain political power.
- In 1054 AD, the Great Schism split Christianity into:
- Roman Catholic Church (West – based in Rome, led by the Pope).
- Greek Orthodox Church (East – based in Constantinople, led by Patriarchs).
B. Differences Between Catholic and Orthodox Christianity
Doctrine |
Greek Orthodox |
Roman Catholic |
Church Leadership |
Multiple Patriarchs share power |
Pope has supreme authority |
Scripture and Tradition |
Bible + Church Fathers + Icons |
Bible + Tradition + Papal Decrees |
Holy Spirit |
Proceeds from the Father only |
Proceeds from Father & Son (Filioque Controversy) |
Worship Practices |
Mystical liturgy, no statues |
Latin Mass, statues allowed |
Clergy Marriage |
Priests can marry |
Priests must remain celibate |
3. Contrasting the Bible, Greek Orthodoxy, and Catholicism
A. Salvation – By Faith or Works?
Bible (First Church) |
Greek Orthodox |
Catholic Church |
Faith in Jesus alone saves (Ephesians 2:8-9) |
Salvation is a lifelong process (Theosis) |
Faith + Works + Sacraments (CCC 2068) |
No purgatory – immediate heaven/hell (Luke 23:43) |
After death, the soul continues to grow toward God |
Purgatory cleanses sin before heaven |
- Biblical View: Jesus’ sacrifice is enough; no purgatory needed.
- Orthodox View: Theosis (becoming like God) is a process even after death.
- Catholic View: Purgatory purifies sins before reaching heaven.
B. Authority – Who Leads the Church?
Bible (First Church) |
Greek Orthodox |
Catholic Church |
Jesus is the head (Colossians 1:18) |
Patriarchs lead local churches |
Pope has supreme authority (CCC 882) |
No single leader – apostles were equal (Acts 15) |
Bishops have equal power |
Pope rules all Catholics |
- Biblical View: No Pope or hierarchy—elders led local churches.
- Orthodox View: Patriarchs lead but are not infallible.
- Catholic View: The Pope is infallible when speaking “ex cathedra.”
C. The Virgin Mary – Highly Venerated or Respected?
Bible (First Church) |
Greek Orthodox |
Catholic Church |
Mary was a faithful servant, not divine (Luke 1:38) |
Mary is highly honored, called “Theotokos” (Mother of God) |
Mary is sinless, Queen of Heaven, prayed to |
No evidence she remained a virgin |
Believes in perpetual virginity |
Believes in perpetual virginity & immaculate conception |
- Biblical View: Mary was blessed but needed salvation like everyone else (Luke 1:47).
- Orthodox View: Mary is honored but not as powerful as Jesus.
- Catholic View: Mary is almost on equal status with Christ.
D. Worship and Images – Icons vs. Idols
Bible (First Church) |
Greek Orthodox |
Catholic Church |
No images or idols in worship (Exodus 20:4-5) |
Icons are windows to God, not idols |
Statues and images are used in worship |
Worship is in spirit and truth (John 4:24) |
Icons are venerated, not worshipped |
Saints’ relics and statues are venerated |
- Biblical View: Worship without images.
- Orthodox View: Icons are allowed, but not worshipped.
- Catholic View: Statues and relics are venerated, sometimes with prayers.
Final Summary: Which One Resembles Jesus and the First Church?
Doctrine |
Jesus & First Church |
Greek Orthodox |
Roman Catholic |
Authority |
Jesus + Bible |
Bible + Church Fathers |
Pope + Tradition + Bible |
Salvation |
By faith alone |
Faith + Theosis |
Faith + Works + Sacraments |
Mary |
Honored but not worshipped |
Highly honored |
Prayed to, sinless, Queen of Heaven |
Leadership |
Shared by elders |
Patriarchs |
Pope is supreme |
Images in Worship |
No images |
Icons used |
Statues and relics |
Who Follows the Bible the Closest?
- The First Church followed the Bible alone.
- Greek Orthodoxy preserved some traditions but added icons and Theosis.
- Catholicism added the most traditions (Pope, purgatory, Mary worship, sacraments).
Conclusion
- The First Church resembled Jesus the most—simple faith, no hierarchy, and no extra rituals.
- Orthodoxy is closer to the Bible than Catholicism but still has extra traditions.
- Catholicism changed the most, making the Pope the supreme ruler and adding many doctrines not found in the Bible.

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Chat GPT AI asks Sr apostolic pastor Taveau:
Do you want me to discuss the more: Extra Rituals of all 3? The Protestant Reformation?
Dr. T replies, Yes,but not today, Save it for CONCLUSION Part 5
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